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Swift spell as Standard Action?
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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 3105376" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Of course, this would be legal:</p><p></p><p>1. A Bard could cast "Dimensional Leap" (Swift Action) to escape from being swallowed. Fail the concentration check and lose the spell.</p><p></p><p>2. Use any metamagic to change the casting time to a Full Round Action (because the bard is a spontaneous caster) and cast it again.</p><p></p><p>However, there is no way within the rules to otherwise "slow down" the casting time to a Standard Action. <sigh></p><p></p><p>Of course, the rule actually is, "Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell. If the spell’s normal casting time is 1 standard action, casting a metamagic version is a full-round action for a sorcerer or bard. (This isn’t the same as a 1-round casting time.)" </p><p></p><p>I guess one could argue that applying metamagic to a Swift Action spell should make it a Standard Action. It's not covered by the rule.</p><p></p><p>This discussion keeps seeming to come back to the Quicken Spell feat -it might be much better to instead simply focus on Swift spells in general without concern for how it became a Swift Spell.</p><p></p><p>This is absolutely NOT about un-metagicking a spell. That's merely a side-effect of allowing a Swift spell to be cast as a Standard Action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 3105376, member: 111"] Of course, this would be legal: 1. A Bard could cast "Dimensional Leap" (Swift Action) to escape from being swallowed. Fail the concentration check and lose the spell. 2. Use any metamagic to change the casting time to a Full Round Action (because the bard is a spontaneous caster) and cast it again. However, there is no way within the rules to otherwise "slow down" the casting time to a Standard Action. <sigh> Of course, the rule actually is, "Therefore, such a character must also take more time to cast a metamagic spell (one enhanced by a metamagic feat) than he does to cast a regular spell. If the spell’s normal casting time is 1 standard action, casting a metamagic version is a full-round action for a sorcerer or bard. (This isn’t the same as a 1-round casting time.)" I guess one could argue that applying metamagic to a Swift Action spell should make it a Standard Action. It's not covered by the rule. This discussion keeps seeming to come back to the Quicken Spell feat -it might be much better to instead simply focus on Swift spells in general without concern for how it became a Swift Spell. This is absolutely NOT about un-metagicking a spell. That's merely a side-effect of allowing a Swift spell to be cast as a Standard Action. [/QUOTE]
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