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<blockquote data-quote="Artoomis" data-source="post: 3112116" data-attributes="member: 111"><p>Not persuasive in the least. There is no evidence to support this. It is more likely they never even considered someone wanting to give up a Standard Action to use a Swift Action instead. Even if true, WHY? Game balance can be the only answer, I think.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Talk about a weak argument. When you make up nonsensical things like this that's basically saying, "because I said so." One can justify anything when one is allowed to make up a story out of whole cloth.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Finally SOMETHING. This argument at least makes some sense. The tough part is WHY can I only do it once? For a Quickened spell, I could do it quickened once and then do it again normally. This an unpersuasive arg8ument, but at least the reference to classic comic characters is amusing.</p><p></p><p>In the end, there likely exists NO persuasive argument to defend why a Swift Action cannot be ALSO done in place of a Standard Action other than simply because teh rule says one Swift Action per round.</p><p></p><p>I do NOT say NO argument, just none that is persuasive. Of course, this should come as no surprise. Swift actions are a "add-on" to 3.5 and the authors of this rule likely did not even anticipate someone would want to do a Swift Action in place of a Standard Action.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Artoomis, post: 3112116, member: 111"] Not persuasive in the least. There is no evidence to support this. It is more likely they never even considered someone wanting to give up a Standard Action to use a Swift Action instead. Even if true, WHY? Game balance can be the only answer, I think. Talk about a weak argument. When you make up nonsensical things like this that's basically saying, "because I said so." One can justify anything when one is allowed to make up a story out of whole cloth. Finally SOMETHING. This argument at least makes some sense. The tough part is WHY can I only do it once? For a Quickened spell, I could do it quickened once and then do it again normally. This an unpersuasive arg8ument, but at least the reference to classic comic characters is amusing. In the end, there likely exists NO persuasive argument to defend why a Swift Action cannot be ALSO done in place of a Standard Action other than simply because teh rule says one Swift Action per round. I do NOT say NO argument, just none that is persuasive. Of course, this should come as no surprise. Swift actions are a "add-on" to 3.5 and the authors of this rule likely did not even anticipate someone would want to do a Swift Action in place of a Standard Action. [/QUOTE]
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