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<blockquote data-quote="Musrum" data-source="post: 3119154" data-attributes="member: 12269"><p>Actually I am not proposing that the Action Type changes.&nbsp; Simply that a Standard Action slot can be used to perform a Swift Action.&nbsp; This already has a precedent (with the Move Action).We are lifting a restriction which is the artifact of poor design (One Swift Action only) whilst still retaining the the restriction that really matters for game balance (Two Spells only).The four spell levels is paid so you can cast a spell as a Free Action (the no AoO is just gravy).&nbsp; Casting a spell as a Free Action is only valuable when you are doing something else with your turn (like casting another spell). So that is what you are paying for: casting two spells a round.No, but you have paid for the option (even though circumstances arise such that you choose not to exercise the option).&nbsp; WoTC explicitly gives you this option an all cases where Quicken is &quot;Automatic&quot;.&nbsp; But with the expansion of the Quicken Free Action into the Swift Action (along with the extra spells etc.) they have failed to apply the necessary rigour to these changes.&nbsp; A small &quot;corner case&quot; is just getting bigger and bigger with each new Swift spell/feat/whatever.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Musrum, post: 3119154, member: 12269"] Actually I am not proposing that the Action Type changes. Simply that a Standard Action slot can be used to perform a Swift Action. This already has a precedent (with the Move Action).We are lifting a restriction which is the artifact of poor design (One Swift Action only) whilst still retaining the the restriction that really matters for game balance (Two Spells only).The four spell levels is paid so you can cast a spell as a Free Action (the no AoO is just gravy). Casting a spell as a Free Action is only valuable when you are doing something else with your turn (like casting another spell). So that is what you are paying for: casting two spells a round.No, but you have paid for the option (even though circumstances arise such that you choose not to exercise the option). WoTC explicitly gives you this option an all cases where Quicken is "Automatic". But with the expansion of the Quicken Free Action into the Swift Action (along with the extra spells etc.) they have failed to apply the necessary rigour to these changes. A small "corner case" is just getting bigger and bigger with each new Swift spell/feat/whatever. [/QUOTE]

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