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<blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7130501" data-attributes="member: 6804070"><p>[MENTION=6801845]Oofta[/MENTION], I didn't talk about the myth of barely being able to move in armor. And the 40 pounds of armor I mentioned is right in the range you gave. Which matches the weights in the PHB too.</p><p></p><p>I haven't studied viking armor, but I've always been under the impression it wasn't much more that studded leather. Which is light armor, and per my rules would impose no penalty.</p><p></p><p>To be fair, I decided to do a little Google to see what I can find:</p><p></p><p>Here's a guy <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEdN3DdO-uA" target="_blank">swimming in a chain shirt</a> (medium armor, PHB says 20lbs) without the padded undergarmet in calm water. Notice he was able to do so, but obviously it wasn't a trivial affair.</p><p></p><p>Here's a guy in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6p3B8gwAc" target="_blank">full chain not even trying to swim</a> and really not even floating. Sounds pretty close to what I'm suggesting; penalty, disadvantage, no movement (floating / treading water only).</p><p></p><p>Here's <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL411hkK2vE" target="_blank">Mythbuster's </a>trying full plate as a shark protector. He mighted have been weighted since he has scuba on. No conclusions from this.</p><p></p><p>Swimming in <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLcT5J7yg9k" target="_blank">samurai armor</a>, not easy, but possible in calm water. Seems to fit with my rules, IMO. Note here's more info onthis video, and the discussionthat a special stroke was developed and used; <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/swim-samurai-33-lbs-medival-armor-article-1.1178426" target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/swim-samurai-33-lbs-medival-armor-article-1.1178426</a></p><p></p><p>Here is <a href="https://vimeo.com/13634653" target="_blank">full plate</a>, which clearly shows this guys inability to swim in it in calm water. Note, it may look like he's floating, but he's standing. Watch when he tries to float, and instead sinks within seconds.</p><p></p><p>Is there still any reason to think swimming in medium or heavy armor wouldn't impose a penalty? (Maybe wizards robes would too, but that's not what I was asking about.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LordEntrails, post: 7130501, member: 6804070"] [MENTION=6801845]Oofta[/MENTION], I didn't talk about the myth of barely being able to move in armor. And the 40 pounds of armor I mentioned is right in the range you gave. Which matches the weights in the PHB too. I haven't studied viking armor, but I've always been under the impression it wasn't much more that studded leather. Which is light armor, and per my rules would impose no penalty. To be fair, I decided to do a little Google to see what I can find: Here's a guy [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEdN3DdO-uA"]swimming in a chain shirt[/URL] (medium armor, PHB says 20lbs) without the padded undergarmet in calm water. Notice he was able to do so, but obviously it wasn't a trivial affair. Here's a guy in [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy6p3B8gwAc"]full chain not even trying to swim[/URL] and really not even floating. Sounds pretty close to what I'm suggesting; penalty, disadvantage, no movement (floating / treading water only). Here's [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL411hkK2vE"]Mythbuster's [/URL]trying full plate as a shark protector. He mighted have been weighted since he has scuba on. No conclusions from this. Swimming in [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLcT5J7yg9k"]samurai armor[/URL], not easy, but possible in calm water. Seems to fit with my rules, IMO. Note here's more info onthis video, and the discussionthat a special stroke was developed and used; [url]http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/swim-samurai-33-lbs-medival-armor-article-1.1178426[/url] Here is [URL="https://vimeo.com/13634653"]full plate[/URL], which clearly shows this guys inability to swim in it in calm water. Note, it may look like he's floating, but he's standing. Watch when he tries to float, and instead sinks within seconds. Is there still any reason to think swimming in medium or heavy armor wouldn't impose a penalty? (Maybe wizards robes would too, but that's not what I was asking about.) [/QUOTE]
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