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<blockquote data-quote="schnee" data-source="post: 7131683" data-attributes="member: 16728"><p>I don't agree with that rule.</p><p></p><p>I think I wasn't expressing the point I attempted to make in the other post well enough so I'll restate it here.</p><p></p><p>--</p><p></p><p>Stealth is a really <em>subtle</em> skill. It means not making a little noise that alerts an active listener. </p><p></p><p>Swimming requires strong, gross body movement.</p><p></p><p>Does disadvantage to Stealth translate to disadvantage checks for climbing? Running? Acrobatics? No. If it doesn't, then it shouldn't reply to Swimming either. Once you look at the relative weights of different armors, it also applies so unevenly that it makes less sense to me - padded armor should not be worse than chain mail or a steel breast plate.</p><p></p><p>Although seemingly elegant, using armor's Stealth disadvantage to translate to Swimming disadvantage is <em>way</em> too punishing.</p><p></p><p>I'm not sure of how to rule on this yet, but I'm letting it sit for a while and talking it over with my co-DMs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="schnee, post: 7131683, member: 16728"] I don't agree with that rule. I think I wasn't expressing the point I attempted to make in the other post well enough so I'll restate it here. -- Stealth is a really [I]subtle[/I] skill. It means not making a little noise that alerts an active listener. Swimming requires strong, gross body movement. Does disadvantage to Stealth translate to disadvantage checks for climbing? Running? Acrobatics? No. If it doesn't, then it shouldn't reply to Swimming either. Once you look at the relative weights of different armors, it also applies so unevenly that it makes less sense to me - padded armor should not be worse than chain mail or a steel breast plate. Although seemingly elegant, using armor's Stealth disadvantage to translate to Swimming disadvantage is [I]way[/I] too punishing. I'm not sure of how to rule on this yet, but I'm letting it sit for a while and talking it over with my co-DMs. [/QUOTE]
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