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Message: <blockquote data-quote="werecorpse" data-source="post: 7134404" data-attributes="member: 55491">Ok a "rocks fall, you die DM" you can't do much about that. Did he always make water and wine skins burst during combat? I think not.Equally you can't get too worked up against people wanting a little realism in the game because you had had a couple of jerk DM's.I know this is a bit off point but I like that water has problems I can relate to - and I like when people try and solve them rather than demand that because they are "heroes" they should be able to heroically ignore them. If a player of mine removed their armour OR came up with some reasonable solution like a flotation device I'd say great, you have overcome the obstacle now let's move on. But I find the trivialisation of water to be a cheap way to deal with a thing that can be overcome with thought by the players but shouldn't just be ignored. virtually naked people are buoyant in water because they displace a weight of water about equal to their weight (Archimedes says so) because we are basically bags of water. The upward force (buoyancy) is equal to the weight of water they displace and that counteracts the downward force of gravity. Plate would displace only a few pounds of water IMO so would add a major downward force as would many other things. Personally I think a wizard in robes would be in deep trouble too. I remember a story a few years ago of a lady who wanted a photo of her in her wedding dress floating in water. The shot took a while to compose, the dress became waterlogged and she was dragged under.But that's reality, D&D is a game and the fun factor is more important.(I'm sorry I looked for the proposed swimming rules we were meant to be considering but must have missed them)</blockquote>

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