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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1258841" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>A few nitpicky comments, some of which actually support Ackem's position...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think you'll find that those fish are actually more jumping than swimming.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A typical brown bear has a strength of 27. A human barbarian may have an 18 strength at 1st. By level 20, he's got a strength of 23. He only exceeds the bear with Rage. While this ability is not spell like or supernatural, it isn't exactly normal, run of the mill stuff either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, technically, so can a 1st level fighter, if he gets really, really lucky. One on one vs the T-rex, even the 20th level fighter might need a bit of luck.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If and only if the DM were <em>stupid</em> enough to allow a reflex save against being at ground-zero of a nuclear explosion. Anyone can survive things if the DM is dim <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Considering that there are real-world people that have done this sort of thing, it's not so odd that a maximally-powered character in an epic action-adventure world can do it, too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 1258841, member: 177"] A few nitpicky comments, some of which actually support Ackem's position... I think you'll find that those fish are actually more jumping than swimming. A typical brown bear has a strength of 27. A human barbarian may have an 18 strength at 1st. By level 20, he's got a strength of 23. He only exceeds the bear with Rage. While this ability is not spell like or supernatural, it isn't exactly normal, run of the mill stuff either. Well, technically, so can a 1st level fighter, if he gets really, really lucky. One on one vs the T-rex, even the 20th level fighter might need a bit of luck. If and only if the DM were [i]stupid[/i] enough to allow a reflex save against being at ground-zero of a nuclear explosion. Anyone can survive things if the DM is dim :) Considering that there are real-world people that have done this sort of thing, it's not so odd that a maximally-powered character in an epic action-adventure world can do it, too. [/QUOTE]
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