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<blockquote data-quote="JoeNotCharles" data-source="post: 4801215" data-attributes="member: 79945">Unfortunately, 4th ed is really not geared towards having lots of summoned creatures outside combat - almost everything that summons or conjures a creature has encounter duration.&nbsp; Here's what I'd do:- Retheme a Summoner as a Necromancer, giving all the summoned creatures the same stats but calling them undead.&nbsp; This takes care of our in-encounter summons.- Take a Familiar feat, and call your familiar an undead too.&nbsp; This gives you one permanent follower.- Flavour all your cantrips as being performed by servitor undead.&nbsp; The &quot;Ghost&quot; in Ghost Sound could be literal; Prestidigitation and Mage Hand effects could be performed by spirits, or by a small army of physical skeletal hands.&nbsp; Light could be a will-o-the-wisp.&nbsp; This gives you a near-infinite number of permanent followers, who are each pretty versatile but can't engage in combat.- Multiclass into Shaman, but make your spirit companion an undead spirit (or a physical undead - nothing saying the &quot;spirit&quot; has to be insubstantial).&nbsp; The &quot;Spirits&quot; in Speak with Spirits refers to departed souls, not nature spirits.Now you have 2 major permanent servitors and a whole bunch of minor ones (depending on how you theme the cantrips), each with a lot of individual flavour.&nbsp; It's more geared to having a couple of individual followers than a horde of faceless zombie minions.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JoeNotCharles, post: 4801215, member: 79945"] Unfortunately, 4th ed is really not geared towards having lots of summoned creatures outside combat - almost everything that summons or conjures a creature has encounter duration. Here's what I'd do: - Retheme a Summoner as a Necromancer, giving all the summoned creatures the same stats but calling them undead. This takes care of our in-encounter summons. - Take a Familiar feat, and call your familiar an undead too. This gives you one permanent follower. - Flavour all your cantrips as being performed by servitor undead. The "Ghost" in Ghost Sound could be literal; Prestidigitation and Mage Hand effects could be performed by spirits, or by a small army of physical skeletal hands. Light could be a will-o-the-wisp. This gives you a near-infinite number of permanent followers, who are each pretty versatile but can't engage in combat. - Multiclass into Shaman, but make your spirit companion an undead spirit (or a physical undead - nothing saying the "spirit" has to be insubstantial). The "Spirits" in Speak with Spirits refers to departed souls, not nature spirits. Now you have 2 major permanent servitors and a whole bunch of minor ones (depending on how you theme the cantrips), each with a lot of individual flavour. It's more geared to having a couple of individual followers than a horde of faceless zombie minions. [/QUOTE]

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