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<blockquote data-quote="JoRM" data-source="post: 4801572" data-attributes="member: 83859">Thanks to both of you Joe and Ment for your posts.The goal of summoning is more towards what Ment said : army of minions. Here's a resume of the game in 3.5 : I'm a controller in combat, no summon spells. Though we have a keep and need to prepare for an inevitable assault from the opposite church (traps and soldiers). Basically that's about it and that's why I'd like to keep being a mage without in-combat summons and with an army of lower undead in his little realm. The goal of all of this is to not only bring the undead on the player's side via summoning or animating only, but it's also to &quot;replace&quot; the Undead Leadership feat found in the Libris Mortis of the 3.5. All the players had the leadership feat and I had the undead one and to be honest, it is exactly that feat that is slowing us to transfer in the 4th edition. Though, the shaman avenue is an interesting one, really. An avenue that I will explore to see if it fits.Also, the leadership's followers can be player (or &quot;summoned&quot;) through roleplaying... but that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out! HehePS: If you didn't see the rituals that I proposed, I just linked them with this post.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JoRM, post: 4801572, member: 83859"] Thanks to both of you Joe and Ment for your posts. The goal of summoning is more towards what Ment said : army of minions. Here's a resume of the game in 3.5 : I'm a controller in combat, no summon spells. Though we have a keep and need to prepare for an inevitable assault from the opposite church (traps and soldiers). Basically that's about it and that's why I'd like to keep being a mage without in-combat summons and with an army of lower undead in his little realm. The goal of all of this is to not only bring the undead on the player's side via summoning or animating only, but it's also to "replace" the Undead Leadership feat found in the Libris Mortis of the 3.5. All the players had the leadership feat and I had the undead one and to be honest, it is exactly that feat that is slowing us to transfer in the 4th edition. Though, the shaman avenue is an interesting one, really. An avenue that I will explore to see if it fits. Also, the leadership's followers can be player (or "summoned") through roleplaying... but that's exactly what I'm trying to figure out! Hehe PS: If you didn't see the rituals that I proposed, I just linked them with this post. [/QUOTE]

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