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Switching from bow to swords - how does it work?
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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5531910" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I can drive a car if I have the keys for it.</p><p></p><p>This does not imply ANY SPECIFIC CAR, nor does it imply that I couldn't have the keys to multiple cars and potentially drive any of them. This is where your analysis fails. </p><p></p><p>In the case of QD when it talks about 'a weapon' it is talking about drawing a weapon when it is to be used with an attack/attack power (unclear but it actually doesn't matter for this discussion). Thus it is perfectly legitimate to interpret this as follows:</p><p></p><p>I decide to use my Twin Strike power. I will attack with my bastard sword, QD allows me to draw 'a weapon' (the bastard sword) and attack with it. Now I will attack with my short sword, and again QD allows me to draw 'a weapon' (the short sword) and attack with it. This is perfectly valid semantics. In fact even if QD said 'the weapon' it wouldn't matter. Each instance of drawing a weapon is quantified to one, but QD doesn't put ANY general restriction on its use. Every time you meet the criteria to use the feat benefit you can use it. If that happens to occur twice in the same power use so what? </p><p></p><p>You have to show me where I'm doing something that plainly violates actual rules text before what I'm doing is against the rules. Using QD twice in one attack doesn't violate any rule which I can find anywhere in the system, so it is perfectly legal.</p><p></p><p>In fact all this debate has accomplished from my perspective is to convince me that QD will let you draw whatever you need in order to carry out the use of a power or other action. The only case I know of where this actually will come up is with multi-attack powers, but I guess it is possible it could show up somewhere else. Lets suppose I needed to draw a spike and a hammer in order to pound in the spike as a standard action. QD wouldn't cover that because THEY BOTH ARE USED TOGETHER to carry out the one action, and that would involve one invocation of QD to do one thing and I couldn't draw 2 things. Twin Strike is doing 2 different things, albeit in one action, and invokes QD twice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5531910, member: 82106"] I can drive a car if I have the keys for it. This does not imply ANY SPECIFIC CAR, nor does it imply that I couldn't have the keys to multiple cars and potentially drive any of them. This is where your analysis fails. In the case of QD when it talks about 'a weapon' it is talking about drawing a weapon when it is to be used with an attack/attack power (unclear but it actually doesn't matter for this discussion). Thus it is perfectly legitimate to interpret this as follows: I decide to use my Twin Strike power. I will attack with my bastard sword, QD allows me to draw 'a weapon' (the bastard sword) and attack with it. Now I will attack with my short sword, and again QD allows me to draw 'a weapon' (the short sword) and attack with it. This is perfectly valid semantics. In fact even if QD said 'the weapon' it wouldn't matter. Each instance of drawing a weapon is quantified to one, but QD doesn't put ANY general restriction on its use. Every time you meet the criteria to use the feat benefit you can use it. If that happens to occur twice in the same power use so what? You have to show me where I'm doing something that plainly violates actual rules text before what I'm doing is against the rules. Using QD twice in one attack doesn't violate any rule which I can find anywhere in the system, so it is perfectly legal. In fact all this debate has accomplished from my perspective is to convince me that QD will let you draw whatever you need in order to carry out the use of a power or other action. The only case I know of where this actually will come up is with multi-attack powers, but I guess it is possible it could show up somewhere else. Lets suppose I needed to draw a spike and a hammer in order to pound in the spike as a standard action. QD wouldn't cover that because THEY BOTH ARE USED TOGETHER to carry out the one action, and that would involve one invocation of QD to do one thing and I couldn't draw 2 things. Twin Strike is doing 2 different things, albeit in one action, and invokes QD twice. [/QUOTE]
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