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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 5373309" data-attributes="member: 996">I assume that while you're new to D&D there are others in your group who aren't - and a couple of them are the ones who are bashing 4e and don't want to try it?4e is a great system, superior to 3.5 in many ways.  It's faster and easier to learn (and the new 'Essentials' lines tries to be /even/ simpler and easier and faster to learn), better balanced, encourages team play and tactics, etc...  The main advantage of 3.5 in the eyes of many is that it provides a vast, rich set of character customization choices and 'rewards system master.'  In other words, it's a power-gamer's dream system - complex, arcane, and infiinitely abuseable.If you like your group and can stand to play 3.5, you might not want to push the issue.  I've gamed with 3.5 fans who 'reluctantly give 4e a chance,' and the outcome is grim more often than not - if you're determined to find fault, there's always faults to find.  If there are D&D Encounters games going on in your area, they're quick, painless way to try out 4e ('Essentials'), you won't see it at it's best, as the setting is very casual, and the attendance unpredictable, but it's something.If your group really is ready to try 4e, they might want to start with the Red Box - it has an old-school retro feel that might apeal to those who have resisted 4e so far.</blockquote>