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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bagpuss" data-source="post: 3558143" data-attributes="member: 3987">No but then you are getting an off hand attack at x0.5 Strength bonus as well.No, but then you aren't getting a shield bonus from your Greatsword.+1 Heavy Spiked Shield of Bashing, 2d6+1 base damage +1 to attack rolls. Plus offhand light weapon extra for extra 1d6 damage. 4,200gp approx.+1 Flaming Greatsword, 2d6+1 (+1d6 flaming) 8350gp.So my option is 4000gp less. Not approximately the same investment.Plus if I go the Agile Shield Fighter route my off hand weapon doesn't even need to be light so I can get an extra 1d8, or have a Flail for tripping, disarming options, etc. Don't need to worry about Dex either.For raw damage a Greatsword is pretty cool, but with Shield Charge/Shield Ward and the like, I can trip and opponent and never fear being tripped in return, I can restrict my opponent to a standard attack action, while I full attack him.</blockquote>