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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 3085229" data-attributes="member: 259">I've not seen the movie, but this may be a good time to plug an interesting approach to the lawful/chaotic axis: <a href="http://www-static.cc.gatech.edu/people/home/idris/Essays/Hedge_n_Fox.htm" target="_blank">the fox and the hedgehog</a>I love this idea, and when I think about lawful or chaotic, it's how I think of things.  Someone who never breaks a law may well be chaotic good if they don't have an overarching theory of life (think of a kindly grandpa who likes to whittle and doesn't go in much for discussing philosophy); someone who breaks every law and violates every taboo may be lawful neutral if they do so in service to a goal (think of a student of medicine who robs graves in order to dissect the bodies, out of a belief in the inherent goodness of knowledge).I'm not comfortable considering someone Good based purely on their aims, however.  There are plenty of real-world dictators who attempted to build a better world through terrible acts, and thinking of them is an exercise left to the reader; in fiction, we may consider bad guys like the Borg (and here I speak as someone who knows very little about Star Trek, so forgive me if I make a mistake), who consider assimilation into the collective to be a good thing, no matter that it destroys billions of individuals.  One can, in my opinion, be a utopian and be lawful evil, if you're willing to cause magnificent suffering in order to achieve your utopia.I've not seen the movie, but based on the posts above, it sounds as though the main antagonist has a grand, unified theory of politics, which he is willing to enact even if it means causing a great deal of suffering.  I'd classify such a person as a lawful evil hedgehog.Oh, and folks, c'mon.  Leave out the modern politics, m'kay?Daniel</blockquote>

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