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Message: <blockquote data-quote="stoloc" data-source="post: 5389543" data-attributes="member: 89610">But it's not just the hospitalidins mark that I find makes my SM envious/feel underwhelming.  The Fighter (sword and board or pole-arm either one) and the warden as well both seem far superior to the SM (haven't even looked hard at the psionic defender).To me the swordmage is at best 4th among my favorite defender classes - even lower if you count different builds of fighter as seperate classes.Perhaps there are things in unuseable books that would change my mind (we do nothing from dragon for instance although all the phb's and complete power books are available) but no dragon magazine is needed to make the other defenders fun/effective for me so I wouldn't think the sm would require it either.</blockquote>