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<blockquote data-quote="KlassyReborn" data-source="post: 4674513" data-attributes="member: 82568"><p>Let me chime in here to say that swordmage is possibly my favorite class. It's not designed to be a great defender, nor a great damage dealer, but a well rounded character that can take the role of both if need be. At least that's my feelings on it, nothing I say is set in stone, so if any of you can disprove that, be my guest. </p><p></p><p>And calling them weak is all just a relative term, weak as opposed to what? I'm failing to see how fighter marks are better than swordmage's. Fighters have to constantly attack the same target to keep the attack, whereas swordmages don't. And sure they're not as good damage deals as say, a warlock, but their attacks are great utilities in themselves. Greenflame Blade is a fantastic minion killer if you have them group up. Lightning Lure just means you don't need to move a full movement. Swordburst is just nuts against sworms. </p><p></p><p>It's all about how you build it, let's say you want a genasi swordmage for a LFR campaign. You boost his Int to 20 with a point buy method, and set his background to thay. With the feat Intellegent Blademast, you have a first level character with an AC of 20, 35hp, and a +5 to hit with a basic melee, withOUT the prof bonus of whatever weapon you choose. </p><p></p><p>On that note, i feel it's unfair to say that any one class is inferior to another, or even weak. If you know how to build one right, then they are fantastic, what I think your problem is, is that you really don't know how to make a swordmage correctly, because i feel if you did, you wouldn't be calling them weak in the least.</p><p>(That wasn't a personal attack on anyone, "you" is used in the 2nd person plural.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KlassyReborn, post: 4674513, member: 82568"] Let me chime in here to say that swordmage is possibly my favorite class. It's not designed to be a great defender, nor a great damage dealer, but a well rounded character that can take the role of both if need be. At least that's my feelings on it, nothing I say is set in stone, so if any of you can disprove that, be my guest. And calling them weak is all just a relative term, weak as opposed to what? I'm failing to see how fighter marks are better than swordmage's. Fighters have to constantly attack the same target to keep the attack, whereas swordmages don't. And sure they're not as good damage deals as say, a warlock, but their attacks are great utilities in themselves. Greenflame Blade is a fantastic minion killer if you have them group up. Lightning Lure just means you don't need to move a full movement. Swordburst is just nuts against sworms. It's all about how you build it, let's say you want a genasi swordmage for a LFR campaign. You boost his Int to 20 with a point buy method, and set his background to thay. With the feat Intellegent Blademast, you have a first level character with an AC of 20, 35hp, and a +5 to hit with a basic melee, withOUT the prof bonus of whatever weapon you choose. On that note, i feel it's unfair to say that any one class is inferior to another, or even weak. If you know how to build one right, then they are fantastic, what I think your problem is, is that you really don't know how to make a swordmage correctly, because i feel if you did, you wouldn't be calling them weak in the least. (That wasn't a personal attack on anyone, "you" is used in the 2nd person plural.) [/QUOTE]
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