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<blockquote data-quote="Ferghis" data-source="post: 6034882" data-attributes="member: 40483"><p>It occurred to me that this detail is an excellent litmus test, since it repeats the offending issue. Since the hybrid aegis power recovers when a target dies, it would recover when the first target died. A common (and well-discussed) tactic for paragon-tier hybrid swordmages is to try mark at least one minion each time so that they can quickly recover the power and mark more enemies.</p><p></p><p>As is the case in OP' power, the benefit of this feat to a hybrid swordmage is significantly greater than to of a non-hybrid swordmage. This happens again at epic, when Total Aegis allows the swordmage to mark all enemies in the power's burst, allowing for even more abuse of this gambit. The limiting factor seems to be the swordmage's immediate action, which is used up when implementing the damage reduction of the blow. The attack roll penalty remains throughout, but no matter how many enemies the swordmage marks, s/he will be able to reduce the damage on only one of their attacks per round.</p><p></p><p>It remains to be shown whether the greater benefit is "wrong." After all, vanilla swordmages are known to be poor defenders, and compare poorly in that respect with, for example, fighters and wardens, at least in terms of control/defenderyness. And it is often the case that feats and powers are more valuable to a certain build than to another.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ferghis, post: 6034882, member: 40483"] It occurred to me that this detail is an excellent litmus test, since it repeats the offending issue. Since the hybrid aegis power recovers when a target dies, it would recover when the first target died. A common (and well-discussed) tactic for paragon-tier hybrid swordmages is to try mark at least one minion each time so that they can quickly recover the power and mark more enemies. As is the case in OP' power, the benefit of this feat to a hybrid swordmage is significantly greater than to of a non-hybrid swordmage. This happens again at epic, when Total Aegis allows the swordmage to mark all enemies in the power's burst, allowing for even more abuse of this gambit. The limiting factor seems to be the swordmage's immediate action, which is used up when implementing the damage reduction of the blow. The attack roll penalty remains throughout, but no matter how many enemies the swordmage marks, s/he will be able to reduce the damage on only one of their attacks per round. It remains to be shown whether the greater benefit is "wrong." After all, vanilla swordmages are known to be poor defenders, and compare poorly in that respect with, for example, fighters and wardens, at least in terms of control/defenderyness. And it is often the case that feats and powers are more valuable to a certain build than to another. [/QUOTE]
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