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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 2353840" data-attributes="member: 14159"><p>One more thing about game rules for Episode III. While I was at my FLGS, I idly looked in the back of the Revenge of the Sith miniatures scenario book, and was pleasantly surprised to find 6 pages of RPG stats in the back. Being the first actual mention of the RPG in the minis materials and the first stats, it was the first thing even vaguely backing up the "supporting the RPG"s through the minis line" bit. This made me happy at first, full stats for General Grievous, Episode III Chewbacca, Bail Organa, ect. I also like that they are using the rules for cybernetics from the Hero's Guide where you take penalties to Force Point rolls for cybernetics (like Anakin having a permanent -2 for his arm, while Grievous suffers a -10 for his whole-body cyborging).</p><p></p><p>Only one thing in the thing upset me, and it upset me a lot, the new official Episode III stats of Anakin Skywalker at the beginning of the movie: Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 11. I would call it Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 8 personally.</p><p></p><p>Now, I have three real problems with him having 11 Jedi levels at that point:</p><p></p><p>1. The Episode IV write-up of Darth Vader has him being Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 11/Sith Lord 6. However, if he's Frg 1/JG 11 at Episode III, he can't take Sith Lord levels, he doesn't meet almost any of the prerequisites! Knowledge (Sith Lore) 8 Ranks? Nope. Speak Sith & Read/Write Sith? Nope. 8 total ranks Dark Side skills? Nope. It would take him 3 levels just to earn those prereqs with his 14 Intelligence. If he had 8 JG levels in Ep III, he could earn 3 more JG levels, have the prereqs for Sith Lord and then be Frg 1/JG 11/Sith Lord 6 by Yavin.</p><p></p><p>2. He earned 6 levels over the three year course of the Clone Wars? No movie or EU character anywhere in Star Wars levels up anywhere near that fast. The fastest was Luke got getting 7 levels of JG in the 4 years of the Galactic Civil War, and if you actually look at most characters, they get a level every year or two when in their lower levels. It just seems awfully fast to be levelling up compared to everyone else around him.</p><p></p><p>3. He apparently earned about 4 of those levels in 6 months too. By the rest of the EU, he recieved his rank of Jedi Knight only about 6 months before the events of Ep. III, and the decision was made shortly before that but they were delayed in formally promoting him. If you reach Jedi Knight at 7th Jedi level, even assuming a bit of a delay so he might be close to 8th level by the time it's actually recognized, being 11th Jedi level and having been formally knighted only a few months ago is implausible given the rates of character progression seen everywhere else.</p><p></p><p>I almost get the feeling that they just looked at his Episode IV stats, stripped off the Sith Lord levels and all the dark side and sith related skills, without thinking it through.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 2353840, member: 14159"] One more thing about game rules for Episode III. While I was at my FLGS, I idly looked in the back of the Revenge of the Sith miniatures scenario book, and was pleasantly surprised to find 6 pages of RPG stats in the back. Being the first actual mention of the RPG in the minis materials and the first stats, it was the first thing even vaguely backing up the "supporting the RPG"s through the minis line" bit. This made me happy at first, full stats for General Grievous, Episode III Chewbacca, Bail Organa, ect. I also like that they are using the rules for cybernetics from the Hero's Guide where you take penalties to Force Point rolls for cybernetics (like Anakin having a permanent -2 for his arm, while Grievous suffers a -10 for his whole-body cyborging). Only one thing in the thing upset me, and it upset me a lot, the new official Episode III stats of Anakin Skywalker at the beginning of the movie: Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 11. I would call it Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 8 personally. Now, I have three real problems with him having 11 Jedi levels at that point: 1. The Episode IV write-up of Darth Vader has him being Fringer 1/Jedi Guardian 11/Sith Lord 6. However, if he's Frg 1/JG 11 at Episode III, he can't take Sith Lord levels, he doesn't meet almost any of the prerequisites! Knowledge (Sith Lore) 8 Ranks? Nope. Speak Sith & Read/Write Sith? Nope. 8 total ranks Dark Side skills? Nope. It would take him 3 levels just to earn those prereqs with his 14 Intelligence. If he had 8 JG levels in Ep III, he could earn 3 more JG levels, have the prereqs for Sith Lord and then be Frg 1/JG 11/Sith Lord 6 by Yavin. 2. He earned 6 levels over the three year course of the Clone Wars? No movie or EU character anywhere in Star Wars levels up anywhere near that fast. The fastest was Luke got getting 7 levels of JG in the 4 years of the Galactic Civil War, and if you actually look at most characters, they get a level every year or two when in their lower levels. It just seems awfully fast to be levelling up compared to everyone else around him. 3. He apparently earned about 4 of those levels in 6 months too. By the rest of the EU, he recieved his rank of Jedi Knight only about 6 months before the events of Ep. III, and the decision was made shortly before that but they were delayed in formally promoting him. If you reach Jedi Knight at 7th Jedi level, even assuming a bit of a delay so he might be close to 8th level by the time it's actually recognized, being 11th Jedi level and having been formally knighted only a few months ago is implausible given the rates of character progression seen everywhere else. I almost get the feeling that they just looked at his Episode IV stats, stripped off the Sith Lord levels and all the dark side and sith related skills, without thinking it through. [/QUOTE]
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