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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 4991608" data-attributes="member: 67338">sorry if I was not clear, but yes I feel 4e is better then 3e, how ever I am currently playing both. So take that for what you will. I mean that the phrase and the movie doesn't apply to 4e though, atleast not any mor ehten it did to any other edtion...like I said if only 30% of the population has claasses, and the rest are farmers and bakers, and fishermen, and ect ect ect then every class is special, but not everyone, just everyone of the main stars...that is funny I found that as players spent more and more time playing they gear themselves toward the level of simplicity they want. In 3.5 I found many wizard players happy to 'down grade' to the warlock, well many fighter players were equaly happy with the 'upgrade' to warblade... infact I saw very few 10th level fighters in my games ever...[sblock=melee character pre Bo9S]I have a player who loves theives, and have been playing them sence 1e...in the late 90's he found he more often then not multi classed into eaither wizard or fighter. This same play around 2003 (right after 3.5 hit I think) found his favorit way to play a rouge was to multi into what he called 'combat class'...he and others around here used this base to build every warrior type you can imagin and every rouge type as well...Fighter/Rouge/Ranger 2/3/3 then found a prestige class to fit them and there character...why becuse you got skills and fighting power, and hp, and gave up little..funny how no one every said "gee fighter 8 is just as good, or Ranger 8 is just a good, or ROuge 8 is just as good" and yet the spellcasters could still sing "Anything you can do I can do better...I can do anything better then you"[/sblock]I still see the same styles of play as before I don't know if maybe you and I just have diffrent groups, but fighters are played the way I always wanted to play them, and wizards have only lost there biggest guns...It is no exsistan to me...yea, becuse those people that always played wizards are happy with the power cut...oh wait that is a major complaint... I want play style to vary but not the fun...and some things in old edtions where not fun...for most people I know.I also find it funny I remember people from 1e forward having players say "I am too dumb to be a wizard" now adays you rearly hear that... so was it play stlye diffrence or gamemastery diffrence???</blockquote>

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