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"Syndrome" Syndrome: or the Fallacy of "Special"
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<blockquote data-quote="WalterKovacs" data-source="post: 4993487" data-attributes="member: 63763"><p>I think that there are some baseball examples that would shoot that out of the water. Not only is there the issue of steroids, but lots of the homerun chasers had to deal with issues like the asterix because people didn't want to take the record away from the previous holder. The athletes attitude towards the press in many ways changed the way the "homerun chase" was shown. The personable guys were set as more heroic than the guy who just puts his head down and works hard at winning. While people who don't reach a certain level of ability will be flat out ignored, once they reach that level it is more than just their ability that is scrutanized. In some cases (running and swimming), it's more that so little attention is put on the sport that the only people recognized are the very best. In sports with a number of stars, personality counts.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I'm saying that it is still encouraging Dash to be mediocre. The only thing he is testing his skill aginst is his previous best time. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Correct me if I'm wrong ... have any of those people retired at the end of their careers having never even come close to losing?</p><p> </p><p>I'm not saying you need to work hard to be deserving to be allowed to compete.</p><p> </p><p>I'm saying that it isn't competiting if you have no competition. It's only competiting if there is some risk of losing. That is why matter of degree actually matters in this case. In many sports, it's very possible that the "best" won't necessarily win. Races, on the other hands, will come down to a matter of fractions of a second in difference. When Dash is able to beat any human being by a number of seconds, short of Dash injuring himself or tripping and falling ... how would he <em>ever</em> lose a race.</p><p> </p><p>At that point he shows up, they give him a gold medal, see if he breaks his previous record, and then move on to competing for the Silver medal. Since not a single one of them has a chance of getting a Gold medal short of Dash not showing up.</p><p> </p><p>They still have men and women in seperate divisions. They still test for performance enhancing drugs. If superhuman abilities existed, they would potentially create a superhuman olympiad, or maybe not ... since superhuman really just means "more than human", there isn't necessarily a grouping that would provide for a real competition. Flash vs. Quicksilver, for example, wouldn't be a competition at all, since Flash can travel at near light speeds, while Quicksilver is closer to the speed of sound. </p><p> </p><p>Performance enhancing drugs push the limits of the peak of human ability, and they are not allowed. They don't disallow superhuman abilty ... because it doesn't exist. It isn't cheating because it isn't against the rules is a weak argument for a hypothetical argument. There are some things that are against the rules.</p><p> </p><p>Ultimately, I am saying that if Dash were to go around and "compete" with people that have no chance of beating him ... he is trading "pretend to be mediocre so other people feel good" with "rub it in their face to make yourself feel good". If he really wants to <em>compete</em> he should look for something that is at least in the same speed range as he is. Or, he can participate in different sports where his speed doesn't necessarily equate to him winning. Unless he doesn't want to compete ... he just wants to be acknowledged as being the best. He wants to be treated special just because of his power, not for actually using his power in any way that is productive to anyone other than himself.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WalterKovacs, post: 4993487, member: 63763"] I think that there are some baseball examples that would shoot that out of the water. Not only is there the issue of steroids, but lots of the homerun chasers had to deal with issues like the asterix because people didn't want to take the record away from the previous holder. The athletes attitude towards the press in many ways changed the way the "homerun chase" was shown. The personable guys were set as more heroic than the guy who just puts his head down and works hard at winning. While people who don't reach a certain level of ability will be flat out ignored, once they reach that level it is more than just their ability that is scrutanized. In some cases (running and swimming), it's more that so little attention is put on the sport that the only people recognized are the very best. In sports with a number of stars, personality counts. I'm saying that it is still encouraging Dash to be mediocre. The only thing he is testing his skill aginst is his previous best time. Correct me if I'm wrong ... have any of those people retired at the end of their careers having never even come close to losing? I'm not saying you need to work hard to be deserving to be allowed to compete. I'm saying that it isn't competiting if you have no competition. It's only competiting if there is some risk of losing. That is why matter of degree actually matters in this case. In many sports, it's very possible that the "best" won't necessarily win. Races, on the other hands, will come down to a matter of fractions of a second in difference. When Dash is able to beat any human being by a number of seconds, short of Dash injuring himself or tripping and falling ... how would he [i]ever[/i] lose a race. At that point he shows up, they give him a gold medal, see if he breaks his previous record, and then move on to competing for the Silver medal. Since not a single one of them has a chance of getting a Gold medal short of Dash not showing up. They still have men and women in seperate divisions. They still test for performance enhancing drugs. If superhuman abilities existed, they would potentially create a superhuman olympiad, or maybe not ... since superhuman really just means "more than human", there isn't necessarily a grouping that would provide for a real competition. Flash vs. Quicksilver, for example, wouldn't be a competition at all, since Flash can travel at near light speeds, while Quicksilver is closer to the speed of sound. Performance enhancing drugs push the limits of the peak of human ability, and they are not allowed. They don't disallow superhuman abilty ... because it doesn't exist. It isn't cheating because it isn't against the rules is a weak argument for a hypothetical argument. There are some things that are against the rules. Ultimately, I am saying that if Dash were to go around and "compete" with people that have no chance of beating him ... he is trading "pretend to be mediocre so other people feel good" with "rub it in their face to make yourself feel good". If he really wants to [i]compete[/i] he should look for something that is at least in the same speed range as he is. Or, he can participate in different sports where his speed doesn't necessarily equate to him winning. Unless he doesn't want to compete ... he just wants to be acknowledged as being the best. He wants to be treated special just because of his power, not for actually using his power in any way that is productive to anyone other than himself. [/QUOTE]
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