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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 8427456" data-attributes="member: 86653">Right. But it does exist. It is there in black and white. It's not revelatory to point to it. I never said it would or should be used willy-nilly or all the time. Simply pointing out that the exact same level of control for the DM exists in D&D as people are vehemently objecting to when it comes to the Referee in FKR games.I haven't suggested any specific uses for it beyond setting the DC of tasks. Only pointed out that it exists.If you know that you have a 75% chance to accomplish a task, that's certainty...in your chances to accomplish the task. Not certainty that you will succeed. It's a level of precision in knowledge that simply doesn't exist in the real world for most things that would require a roll in a game.Depends on the task. If you're suggesting that you can look at a wall and know down to the percentage point how likely you are to climb it, then yeah, I call BS. If you're suggesting that you can look at a car swerving out of its lane and into yours on a rainy night and claim that you'd know down to the percentage point how likely you are to avoid a collision, then yeah, I call BS. Some things are certain. Some things are uncertain. Some things are right out. But for those uncertain things, you're not going to know a percentage chance of success or failure in the real world.No. The numbers provide a level of specificity that's unrealistic for the character to know.No, it's not. It's your preference. Plain and simple.Ah. Right, so that's your example of what you're talking about and what you're objecting to. But that's not what I'm talking about, at all. I agree, the above example is problematic. But that's still not what I'm talking about.What I'm talking about, in that example, would be the DM setting the DC for the save. That's it. The DM is free to set the DC, but that includes automatic failure, automatic success, dis/advantage, and any number. The DM does not have to report that DC to the players. So the players make the roll, then the DM reports success or failure. If the DM sets the DC...then changes it so more people fail or pass...that's a jerk move and bad DMing. The DM, and Referee, should be a fair and neutral arbiter. Set the challenge and let it play out. Let the dice fall where they may. But it's beyond ludicrous to assume that if the DM doesn't report the DC ahead of time then ipso facto they're cheating.Why do DMs and GMs the world over use house rules?There are no hidden rules in FKR. All the rules are right there. Roll 2d6, higher is better. You mean the "DC" of a given task. Why hide that? Because the character would not have the level of precision of knowledge about their chances of success.</blockquote>

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