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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 2711961" data-attributes="member: 19675"><p>Re: D&D vs TFT- what I meant is that they are both older fantasy games...I would think that switching one or the other out for a more modern game might give you insight into system evolution.</p><p></p><p>However, re-examining your list:</p><p> </p><p></p><p>I see that you do have some newer games on the list. I also don't recognize Magic World...who/when is that from? And isn't C&D an outgrowth of 3Ed?</p><p></p><p>I'm just concerned that you're not getting a good spread of fantasy games. Talisantha is a good one, for instance, that bears little similarity to those others. And while RIFTS might seem clunky, Palladium Fantasy isn't.</p><p></p><p>As for doing both GURPS & HERO...I wouldn't do it. Both games require too much time to design PCs that your players might rebel.</p><p></p><p>I also share amethal's concerns. It will be difficult to get good results without experiencing changes due to metagaming- perhaps you should find a couple of different modules (like some of the old TFT or Judges Guild ones. Or perhaps you could design a multiple choice module or 2 to ensure that the differences you record are due to system and systems alone, not to players gaming with knowledge their PCs don't have. Maybe you could even run it tournament style somehow- with different GMS in your area running the games with their groups while you're taking notes.</p><p></p><p>And having each person in the group run an adventure should spice things up a bit...one person runs TFT, another runs the D&D game, yet another runs Ars Magica, etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 2711961, member: 19675"] Re: D&D vs TFT- what I meant is that they are both older fantasy games...I would think that switching one or the other out for a more modern game might give you insight into system evolution. However, re-examining your list: I see that you do have some newer games on the list. I also don't recognize Magic World...who/when is that from? And isn't C&D an outgrowth of 3Ed? I'm just concerned that you're not getting a good spread of fantasy games. Talisantha is a good one, for instance, that bears little similarity to those others. And while RIFTS might seem clunky, Palladium Fantasy isn't. As for doing both GURPS & HERO...I wouldn't do it. Both games require too much time to design PCs that your players might rebel. I also share amethal's concerns. It will be difficult to get good results without experiencing changes due to metagaming- perhaps you should find a couple of different modules (like some of the old TFT or Judges Guild ones. Or perhaps you could design a multiple choice module or 2 to ensure that the differences you record are due to system and systems alone, not to players gaming with knowledge their PCs don't have. Maybe you could even run it tournament style somehow- with different GMS in your area running the games with their groups while you're taking notes. And having each person in the group run an adventure should spice things up a bit...one person runs TFT, another runs the D&D game, yet another runs Ars Magica, etc. [/QUOTE]
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