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Message: <blockquote data-quote="amerigoV" data-source="post: 5584434">One certainly pays more for the system with D&D these days. Its a primary factor as to why I am a lapsed D&D player. 3e just bogged down for me as a GM and 4e, while a fine system, just is so much crunch and so little new ideas. Although I do not play 4e, I did pick up the Dark Sun Campaign setting (I was poor during the 2e days). Lets just say I am not all that pleased that the real stuff on Dark Sun does not start until page 130, the rest being mostly character stuff. I am even more pissed that I saw a copy at the 1/2 book store this past week, which is more reflective of the value, IMHO. The sad part is if you look back to 3e FR and Eberron, they are great value for the money - lots of non-crunch in the main book.Anyway, just venting a little. I am perfectly happy with Savage Worlds these days. Great value for the $.</blockquote>