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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ShinHakkaider" data-source="post: 6026409" data-attributes="member: 9213">I know that there are decent people who happen to be gamers out there. I know a few of them. My current group is made up of EXCELLENT human beings and I value them greatly. That being said every time I've had to look to put a group together it's a nightmare. Either people have no respect for other people's time, not socially adjusted and or worse. I also take into account actions performed IN game as well. It's probably not fair to do so but unfettered by conscious or ramifications most gamers would commit the worse type of bullying, harassment and murder at the drop of a hat. I'm sorry but roleplaying only goes so far and when it comes to that gamers are some of the most bloodthirsty and utterly sociopathic people that I know. Keep in mind I'm not talking about just them killing obvious enemies in combat, I'm talking civilians, presumably helpful NPC's, kids, animals. Yes, I'm well aware that I'm talking about an imaginary game with imaginary characters and imaginary creatures. But we're also talking about people acting out their worst impulses in this imaginary settings. I did this too, when I was like, 15, 16 years old. But then I grew up and even when I played I viewed my surroundings and people as I would If they were people and not things to kill for XP. Most gamers that I've run into, even when playing obviously "heroic" characters really dont let that part, the empathy, filter in. And if it's a consistent enough pattern then it's not the role or the character it's the player(s). You may disagree with the criteria but I've been playing and DMing long enough to see this sort of thing consistently. Enough where it's started to bother me of the past 10 years or so. So much so where I'm pretty selective about who I play with and run games for. I dont know about the UK in here in the states we really do have enough of the "dark loner" types and I'm sick of these people who see themselves an amalgam of their favorite sociopathic characters from books, movies and TV.</blockquote>

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