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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Beginning of the End" data-source="post: 5359676" data-attributes="member: 55271">Okay, fine. There seem to be three possibilities:(1) You're assuming that the missing sales from the distribution totals are returnable copies. This is untrue as a 30 second perusal of the links would have demonstrated. The missing sales are from direct sales from the publisher's website, sales from other online storefronts, and sales of PDF copies.If you think that Gareth should have dismissed returnable copies from his sales figures, then Gareth's evidence is even more bankrupt: He included all the potential returnable copies while excluding the sales figures from sources which are definitely not returnable.(And this assumes that there are any copies of DFRPG sold on a returnable basis. That's a highly questionable assumption on your part, since the RPG industry, by and large, doesn't operate under those conditions.)(2) You think that Gareth can legitimately disregard non-distribution sales because Gareth is only interested in commenting on the health of hobby stores. But Gareth's claim is not "the FLGS is a dying business model"; Gareth's claim is that the entire RPG industry is collapsing. The fact that Gareth cites a survey based on retailer sales doesn't mean that retailer sales are automatically the only point of data worth considering. The fact that sales are moving online does not indicate an industry collapse.(3) You are just stringing words together without really understanding what they mean.Admin here. What's with the insults? If you want to stay part of the discussion, please find a way to discuss your opinion without insulting other people. ~ PiratecatAs I said before, the fact that your phrasing was imprecise and vague makes it difficult to determine exactly which type of nonsense you were spouting.</blockquote>

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