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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 5368122" data-attributes="member: 1139">So by &quot;hobby market&quot; you mean that ICV2 doesn't poll the likes of Borders stores, and also doesn't poll online operations?That makes sense, as I have rarely been to a Borders or Barnes and Noble store with a significant selection of non-D&amp;D RPG books compared to D&amp;D books relative to the ratio you see in dedicated gaming stores.&nbsp; It isn't clear to me that smaller games would sell similar numbers of products online versus in hobby stores.&nbsp; So even if the 5th game on ICV2's list sold few products, that doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't significant orders of some other game that didn't sell many products through stores.&nbsp; I doubt there's any good data here, though.&nbsp; Speaking just for myself, of the last 10 RPG books I've bought (some D&amp;D, some not), half were pdfs and the other half were books I ordered online.&nbsp; So I wonder how much of the market even for non-D&amp;D games is covered by ICV2's survey.&nbsp; Supposing that D&amp;D has similar numbers to Pathfinder among dedicated gaming stores and significantly outsells&nbsp; it among Amazon online retailers and Borders-type physical stores, the next question is what the relative share of sales of RPG books among these types of stores is.&nbsp; Doubt there's available data on that either.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elric, post: 5368122, member: 1139"] So by "hobby market" you mean that ICV2 doesn't poll the likes of Borders stores, and also doesn't poll online operations? That makes sense, as I have rarely been to a Borders or Barnes and Noble store with a significant selection of non-D&D RPG books compared to D&D books relative to the ratio you see in dedicated gaming stores. It isn't clear to me that smaller games would sell similar numbers of products online versus in hobby stores. So even if the 5th game on ICV2's list sold few products, that doesn't necessarily mean that there weren't significant orders of some other game that didn't sell many products through stores. I doubt there's any good data here, though. Speaking just for myself, of the last 10 RPG books I've bought (some D&D, some not), half were pdfs and the other half were books I ordered online. So I wonder how much of the market even for non-D&D games is covered by ICV2's survey. Supposing that D&D has similar numbers to Pathfinder among dedicated gaming stores and significantly outsells it among Amazon online retailers and Borders-type physical stores, the next question is what the relative share of sales of RPG books among these types of stores is. Doubt there's available data on that either. [/QUOTE]

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