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Message: <blockquote data-quote="xechnao" data-source="post: 5187356" data-attributes="member: 58105">I am trying to design a tactical rpg that wont depend on minis so to be done with their limitations (regardin rping and action simulation) and their heavy time demands. But, since 4e works for you let me suggest you try Fantasy Craft. It has options that are very "boardie". Another one is Wotc's Tome of Battle for 3.5e. But regarding 3.5e, I believe 4e is more specialized for the gameplay you say you are looking for -although people do complain about 4e's lack of polish. But do have a look at Fantasy Craft.   Blood Bowl is a gamesworkshop board game that goes even beyond 4e in its tactical board gameplay. It is only about board tactics but it is one player vs one player. I have played with friends in the past and it was lots of fun. Although it is a bit difficult to master so bad luck does not have dramatic or rather tragic results for your side. Cadwallon is another tactical rpg but it somehow differs from 4e. Its tacticality is about navigating tactical boards to accomplish certain objectives much like Commandos, the video game. For example, you should tactically sneak past enemy patrols and the like. And that's it (for now cant think of anything else) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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