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<blockquote data-quote="lewpuls" data-source="post: 7720790" data-attributes="member: 30518"><p>Thank you for the interesting comments. Evidently I have failed to communicate (I think I cut out part of a sentence to lower the word count), which would be a cardinal sin for a tactical group. We selected spells collectively rather than simply assume a cleric was a healer, for example. (Yes, I did write "Be Aware and Take Care".)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Shiroiken, the Old Days are the old books and Grayhawk, and 1e D&D, not 3e. To me, 3e is fairly recent.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think there were more players who played sound tactically in those old days than now. But there has always been a *majority* of players who barely think about what they're doing and charge forward. A far larger proportion of players then were wargamers, than now, and that had a lot to do with greater occurrence of sound tactical play despite the majority hack n slashers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>A player in my campaign in the later 80s that you may have heard of from his blog, Rick Stump, remarked after he moved away that he almost never played a game with people who ran away, or took prisoners - until he exerted his influence of course. Even then, if your GM never let a prisoner give useful information, you would stop taking prisoners.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nowadays a great many players expect the GM to take care of them (as video games hold players' hands), and it wouldn't occur to them that they need to play well tactically (or in any other way) in order to stay alive.</p><p></p><p></p><p>(Stealth could be used in 1e, but stealth via magic item, not via thief capabilities. Elven boots and invisibility rings were far better than thief abilities even at quite high levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, never read the Michael Lewis story. Though I am a Panthers fan, where Oher ended up (but is now seriously concussed and likely will not play again).)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lewpuls, post: 7720790, member: 30518"] Thank you for the interesting comments. Evidently I have failed to communicate (I think I cut out part of a sentence to lower the word count), which would be a cardinal sin for a tactical group. We selected spells collectively rather than simply assume a cleric was a healer, for example. (Yes, I did write "Be Aware and Take Care".) Shiroiken, the Old Days are the old books and Grayhawk, and 1e D&D, not 3e. To me, 3e is fairly recent. I think there were more players who played sound tactically in those old days than now. But there has always been a *majority* of players who barely think about what they're doing and charge forward. A far larger proportion of players then were wargamers, than now, and that had a lot to do with greater occurrence of sound tactical play despite the majority hack n slashers. A player in my campaign in the later 80s that you may have heard of from his blog, Rick Stump, remarked after he moved away that he almost never played a game with people who ran away, or took prisoners - until he exerted his influence of course. Even then, if your GM never let a prisoner give useful information, you would stop taking prisoners. Nowadays a great many players expect the GM to take care of them (as video games hold players' hands), and it wouldn't occur to them that they need to play well tactically (or in any other way) in order to stay alive. (Stealth could be used in 1e, but stealth via magic item, not via thief capabilities. Elven boots and invisibility rings were far better than thief abilities even at quite high levels. Nope, never read the Michael Lewis story. Though I am a Panthers fan, where Oher ended up (but is now seriously concussed and likely will not play again).) [/QUOTE]
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