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Message: <blockquote data-quote="azhrei_fje" data-source="post: 2978628" data-attributes="member: 12966">@Jackylhunter:  Hmm, the animal growth does look good.  Especially since it can affect multiple animals.  If I use summon swarm to gather rats or bats, could I use animal growth on a few of them?  Naw, probably not.  Since I'm thinking of going with the mud attack (see below), I don't want my druid's friends getting caught in the mud.  So I don't think I'll be able to use animal growth.Hmm, I hadn't considered that.  That makes the transmute rock to mud a better choice -- if they dispel it, they've trapped themselves!! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Hmm, interesting.  It's too bad the druid doesn't have cloudkill or stinking cloud, since those would be great when combined with wall of thorns or lesser spells such as entangle.Darn!  I don't know how I missed that!  Probably just looked at the effect entry and forgot that permanent doesn't mean instantaneous. :\Well, one of the details I didn't provide was the composition of the party:  7 characters with a mix of meatshields, rogues, and wizards, with a single cleric in the group.  And they are all at least 9th level.  So the druid will be a pushover unless I can use the home-turf advantage.  This druid is in an underground setting (mushrooms and fungi fill his demesnes), so he doesn't have a lot of choices when it comes to running away.  He might have to direct his dire bear to overrun the party and get to the other side, then he casts wall of thorns on them.  Then he can shapechange into a bird or something and fly through the area along a route that doesn't provoke AoOs.He has prepared summon swarm to harass the spellcasters with, too.  I'm thinking he could summon bats, then take the form of a bat to fly through the thorns; the party wouldn't be able to easily pick him out from the rest of the swarm.Since you've reminded me about the dispel magic (thanks!), I think I'm going to use it!  This druid could also have meld into stone prepared so that he and his animal companion (via share spells) could leave the area by moving inside the wall, in case they need to get away.I thought about baleful polymorph but wrote it off because it can only affect a single character. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />Nope, strictly core.  Eventually I'll apply the errata'd wild shape and polymorph changes (from Feb 2006), but I haven't reviewed them in detail yet.  (The players don't have polymorph and most of the NPCs are clerics without access to it.)</blockquote>

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