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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2488430" data-attributes="member: 3146">It's interesting to see how many people here are Monday morning quarterbacking the Balor's tactics. They seemed reasonably sound to me with the exception of not doing anything with the quickened telekinesis abilities. (Not that the Balor would have wanted to do anything except for maybe a violent thrust or two--throwing the barbarian through his threatened range and taking an AoO on him then watching the barbarian take falling damage as he fell back down would have been fun, as would violent thrusting the wizard's bow somewhere a long way away). The tactics, did, of course, play right into the players hands by slamming most of them with spells they were immune to, but that's one of the challenges of being a DM. If foes never use spells that you have spell immunity for, players notice. Otherwise, you have to play into their hands every now and then.The other odd thing is the wizard's tactics. Even with a quickened true strike and greater magic weapon, an ordinary 16th level wizard (let's assume a 20 dex) would only be +34 (+20 insight, +8 BAB, +5 dex,  +4 enhancement, +1 morale, -4 manyshot)  to hit and only has a good chance (not a certainty) of hitting the Unholy Aura'd AC of 39. If we assume he's got a belt and his strength is up to 18 (starting 12 strength), he's doing 1d8+15 (+4 enhancement, +4 strength, +2d6 holy) per shot and with two arrows is still only doing 39 points of damage per round. (If he also uses evil and chaotic outsider bane arrows, he IS almost certian to hit and can tack another 36 points of damage/round onto that). That sounds pretty good, but if splat books are on the table, the wizard could be doing as much with a simple maximized cold orb (at no xp or gp cost to craft the arrows)  and a +14 (+8 BAB, +1 morale, +5 dex) ranged touch attack vs. touch AC  20 is nearly as good as his chance of hitting with the manyshot... without the quickened true strike.</blockquote>

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