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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 919335" data-attributes="member: 5834">Your point is valid and true. As I stated, I have other reasons for not allowing Take 20 on a Search for traps roll. I feel it devalues the Search skill and too easily enables peope to find traps.Another example of abuse like the following could happen: Player takes 1 level of rogue, maxes out his Search skill, then picks up a Lense of Detection. Now this player can find every trap save ones I make up by taking 20. I hope people rarely do this, but it is a possiblity.The Rogue has an important job, and Search is one of the more important Rogue skills. I prefer that they are encouraged to increase this skill to its maximum possible level. I feel allowing a person to Take 20 doesn't encourage Rogues to increase their search skill, so I don't allow it. No other reason do I have for not allowing Take 20.</blockquote>