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<blockquote data-quote="Mal Malenkirk" data-source="post: 38636" data-attributes="member: 834">You certainly can take 20 to search for a secret door but you can't take 20 to search for trap.If you fail to notice a trap you will likely trip it while searching the area (for traps)!&nbsp; It reminds me of my training in the army when we did the course on setting booby traps.&nbsp; I used a green wire and tied it between two twigs near the base of a tree and camouflaged it very well.&nbsp; The real trap was just under the area you'd have to step on to examine the wire.&nbsp; It was a pressure plate that was designed to set off an explosive.&nbsp; Of course it only had a detonaror, no explosive.&nbsp; We weren't trying to kill each other!When another fellow soldier was assigned to try to find my booby trap it took him 15 minutes before noticing the hidden wire.&nbsp; When he carefully approached to inspect it, he stepped on the pressure plate and ended up owing me a beer.&nbsp; Sucker.&nbsp; Anyway, my point is you either see the trap or fall victim to it while you search.&nbsp; So you can't take 20 in that case.&nbsp; IMC a failed search check often result in having the trap blow in your face.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mal Malenkirk, post: 38636, member: 834"] You certainly can take 20 to search for a secret door but you can't take 20 to search for trap. If you fail to notice a trap you will likely trip it while searching the area (for traps)! It reminds me of my training in the army when we did the course on setting booby traps. I used a green wire and tied it between two twigs near the base of a tree and camouflaged it very well. The real trap was just under the area you'd have to step on to examine the wire. It was a pressure plate that was designed to set off an explosive. Of course it only had a detonaror, no explosive. We weren't trying to kill each other! When another fellow soldier was assigned to try to find my booby trap it took him 15 minutes before noticing the hidden wire. When he carefully approached to inspect it, he stepped on the pressure plate and ended up owing me a beer. Sucker. Anyway, my point is you either see the trap or fall victim to it while you search. So you can't take 20 in that case. IMC a failed search check often result in having the trap blow in your face. [/QUOTE]

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