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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 9747743" data-attributes="member: 4348">Are you purposefully trying to taunt people.I've been playing D&D since the 70s.  I've played OD&D all the way to 5e.  The only people who make the claim you do above are those who don't know what an RPG is...OR, they never really played 4e (maybe they played some poor imitation, or played with someone who didn't know what they were doing...but they didn't play 4e).4e IS an RPG.Of course, if you REALLY want old school, then 3e was the one that broke everything.  What that should have been called was D&D D20 or D20 D&D or something like that rather than D&D...and they should have kept some rendition of AD&D going!If they did that, then calling 4e D&D Skills and Powers would have probably been more acceptable, as they would have started the different naming conventions of D&D with 3e.I could have even gone with the D&D tactics suggested, but that's with the understanding that 3e is no D&D either, but rather D&D D20.5e could have been...D&D Bounded or something like that (seeing it also broke the mold and highly neutered Martials even more by increasing eveyrone's HP, nuking saves, and making their to hit advancments all the same rather than Martials advancing so much quicker and having a far easier time of hitting...meaning they could focus even more on damage).Anyways, I've already probably said too much, but it irks me when people who have no idea how 4e actually worked (and I had more free form RPG games with 4e in some instances due to how free form they made it via page 42 and lax rules in those areas than I have with 3e or 5e in some instances...it was truly an easier RPG experience even if the combat was far more structured).It's like trying to claim PF2e isn't an RPG (very similar chasis to 4e) these days.   It's a ridiculous claim.</blockquote>

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