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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5712713" data-attributes="member: 957">I completely agree with you here.But the difference is, in previous games the mechanics could bear a higher standard of creativity.  In Pre-3E you had the option of describing any wound as superficial.  And you had the option to describe any wound as much more serious.  The point is not that you can not come up with a story to describe the events that occur in any 4E game.  I don't challenge that.  You can.But, you are required to choose from a smaller list of possible stories.  And that list excludes any option for wounds which require medical aid.  I'm not challenging the idea that this is acceptable for some.But I'm stating that it is more than reasonable for that to also be unacceptable for some, particularly given that better systems for including serious wounds are readily available.No one is claiming they don't get the LIKE of surges.  But there seems to be this entitlement attitude, for lack of a better word, that calling the differences in surges for what they are and deciding there is valid reason for disliking it that is somehow an offense against those that do like.To me it is similar to the whole "people who don't like 4E just can't handle change" nonsense.They are different.  If you love it, then awesome.  But can you not agree that there is a true fundamental difference?</blockquote>