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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5713651" data-attributes="member: 957">You still are not grasping the distinction between being in the &quot;background&quot; and &quot;not happening at all&quot;.A fighter putting bandages on himself does not come close to meeting the equivalent of &quot;medical treatment&quot;.&nbsp; If it did, why would ANYONE is any TV show EVER go to the hospital?You ask &quot;Show me in the rules what damage is physical damage, and what damage is metaphysical&quot;.&nbsp; It makes me feel like I'm banging my head against a wall.&nbsp; The WHOLE POINT is that it DOESN'T say that anywhere.&nbsp; The whole point is the DM has absolute narrative control over that choice on a case by case basis.&nbsp; That you can not grasp that fundamental element of this conversation speaks volumes.You claim to have shown how 4E supports showing either real or abstract wounds, but if you understood the complaint you would know you have not come close to that.&nbsp; You only allow for wounds which can be bandaged and are down to &quot;scabbed over&quot; in the morning. I want (and by avoided 4E I have) much more serious wounds than that.&nbsp; I have wounds that either need real non-first aid treatment, or serious down time to recovery from.&nbsp; Yep, the down time is a hell of a lot shorter then &quot;reality&quot;, but it fits really well to heroic fiction.Trying to substitute first aid and night's snuggle for what I'm demanding is a complete failure.So, can you give me what I want?&nbsp; Or do I just get more point missing straw men?&nbsp; (And if you truly believe they are not straw men, then that means you are sincere, yet speaking from a position of total lack of comprehension of the issue.)Show me an example of a wound that a 4E fighter can take and NOT recover from in under 24 hours with NO additional treatment ever needed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5713651, member: 957"] You still are not grasping the distinction between being in the "background" and "not happening at all". A fighter putting bandages on himself does not come close to meeting the equivalent of "medical treatment". If it did, why would ANYONE is any TV show EVER go to the hospital? You ask "Show me in the rules what damage is physical damage, and what damage is metaphysical". It makes me feel like I'm banging my head against a wall. The WHOLE POINT is that it DOESN'T say that anywhere. The whole point is the DM has absolute narrative control over that choice on a case by case basis. That you can not grasp that fundamental element of this conversation speaks volumes. You claim to have shown how 4E supports showing either real or abstract wounds, but if you understood the complaint you would know you have not come close to that. You only allow for wounds which can be bandaged and are down to "scabbed over" in the morning. I want (and by avoided 4E I have) much more serious wounds than that. I have wounds that either need real non-first aid treatment, or serious down time to recovery from. Yep, the down time is a hell of a lot shorter then "reality", but it fits really well to heroic fiction. Trying to substitute first aid and night's snuggle for what I'm demanding is a complete failure. So, can you give me what I want? Or do I just get more point missing straw men? (And if you truly believe they are not straw men, then that means you are sincere, yet speaking from a position of total lack of comprehension of the issue.) Show me an example of a wound that a 4E fighter can take and NOT recover from in under 24 hours with NO additional treatment ever needed. [/QUOTE]

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