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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5713664" data-attributes="member: 957">I agree with this, with the critical addition that because surges can heal ALL HP damage always, all wounds MUST now fall in the "metaphysic" side of the balance sheet.That is the fundamental change which, to me, is unacceptable given the read supply of better options on the market.As I've said before, nothing in 3E PREVENTED you from playing 3E the way 4E is played now.4E, on the other hand, does not allow the narrative space that 3E did if you play the way I still do.I can readily agree that YOU may see no difference.Can you see how, without in any way infringing on your view and preference, there can still be a night and day difference for me?Again, recall that the prior thread started right in with the statement of complete inability to understand why anyone would dislike surges.  And this one starts out with a line in the sand demanding that there is no distinction.  So that is two different people, plus several who have supported their positions.   So, clearly, in the great VENN diagram of gamers, there is a segment somewhere of people who truly see no difference.  And, being completely honest here, I never had trouble accepting the idea that some people would EAGERLY prefer surges, but the idea that some people can't see the GLARING difference they bring was a surprise to me and it took a few encounters for me to fully accept that they are out there.And here I am in this thread talking to a guy who answers "hospital" with band-aids and a nap.  So, my eyes are open.  There are gamers out there who truly see no difference whatsoever.Do you accept that I have good reasons for greatly caring in the same manner that I accept that you have good reasons for not caring in the least?Because, for God's sake, play what you like.  There are people out there playing chess and Pokeman and Chinese Checkers and they don't even know what we are talking about.  And people playing and loving 4E has no more impact on my game than people playing chess.  But when someone tries to tell me that they know better than me about what my game is and is not, I find that boggling.Can you accept that fighters having wounds they can't make vanish is a big deal to me?</blockquote>

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