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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5714661" data-attributes="member: 22779">Heh, so "Sir Billingsley" is now a barbarian?  LOL.  Wearing a helmet?  Since I actually described him as wearing armor, his pounce abilty doesn't work does it?Or maybe he's wearing a helmet and a loincloth.  That's more believable.Sure, we can make up crap all day long.  Add in stuff about "infection" which is completely unsupported by the rules and then claim that it's all the same all you like.  To me, you've pretty much ignored any part of the actual challenge and gone so far off the ranch, you're not even in the same time zone.I've said that I buy the idea that long term wounds are difficult to narrate in 4e.  I've said it more than a few times.  However, my issue is that the idea of long term wounds is actually a pretty narrow corner case that's generally caused by the DM narrating himself into a corner.  OTOH, removing the need for magical healing allows for characters to have the "heroic comeback", all without having to resort to making things up and ignoring the examples given.After all, my Sir Billingsley could be ANY class in 4e.  In your example, he can only be a single class, and a variant one at that.  So, again, the narrative space in 4e, in this case is much larger.But, then again, maybe in your version of D&D, barbarians wear armor and don't lose their abilities.  Again, it would be nice if your examples ACTUALLY followed the rules.  Adding in serious wounds to 4e is a 15 minute job.  The disease track allows you to add it in very easily.  Heck, my current Dark Sun game in which I play (4e) USES this to narrate serious wounds.  There, done.  But, I'm not allowed to do that because, *gasp* it's not in the rules.But, whenever we talk about the limitations of 3e, suddenly it's all freedom and light and you can do whatever the heck you want to.</blockquote>

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