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<blockquote data-quote="Rogue Agent" data-source="post: 5717523" data-attributes="member: 6673496"><p>Yes. I'd agree that this strawman is full of straw.</p><p></p><p>... wait. What was the question again?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>(1) That precise scene? Maybe not. But it's almost trivial to get a scene very much like it.</p><p></p><p>(2) But it actually can be modeled. In 3E, Luke has been out in the severe cold on patrol for while. If he's failed a couple of Fortitude saves, he'd be down 2d6 points of nonlethal damage. Wampa deals enough lethal damage to knock him out from the nonlethal damage. The nonlethal damage heals at a rate of 1 hit points per hour per character level and he wakes up.</p><p></p><p>Summary: Even if I bought into the whole "let's try to model a very specific piece of fiction using game rules" as having any sort of validity as a methodology (and I don't), you don't really seem to have much of a point here.</p><p></p><p>(As an exercise for the reader: Assume that only 5 minutes passes from the wampa's attack and Luke waking up. That's 50 rounds. Calculate the odds of rolling 49 death saves without (a) failing three times or (b) rolling a 20. </p><p></p><p>If one were serious about avoiding dubiously defined "corner cases", they'd probably be better off arguing that the wampa chose to knock him unconscious because it likes to keep its meat fresh, allowing Luke to automatically wake up after a short rest. Of course, in 3E, this would mean the wampa would have been dealing nonlethal damage... which explains why it wasn't available for Hussar's rhetorical purposes.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rogue Agent, post: 5717523, member: 6673496"] Yes. I'd agree that this strawman is full of straw. ... wait. What was the question again? (1) That precise scene? Maybe not. But it's almost trivial to get a scene very much like it. (2) But it actually can be modeled. In 3E, Luke has been out in the severe cold on patrol for while. If he's failed a couple of Fortitude saves, he'd be down 2d6 points of nonlethal damage. Wampa deals enough lethal damage to knock him out from the nonlethal damage. The nonlethal damage heals at a rate of 1 hit points per hour per character level and he wakes up. Summary: Even if I bought into the whole "let's try to model a very specific piece of fiction using game rules" as having any sort of validity as a methodology (and I don't), you don't really seem to have much of a point here. (As an exercise for the reader: Assume that only 5 minutes passes from the wampa's attack and Luke waking up. That's 50 rounds. Calculate the odds of rolling 49 death saves without (a) failing three times or (b) rolling a 20. If one were serious about avoiding dubiously defined "corner cases", they'd probably be better off arguing that the wampa chose to knock him unconscious because it likes to keep its meat fresh, allowing Luke to automatically wake up after a short rest. Of course, in 3E, this would mean the wampa would have been dealing nonlethal damage... which explains why it wasn't available for Hussar's rhetorical purposes.) [/QUOTE]
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