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<blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5718290" data-attributes="member: 957">Yes, you are missing something.At least two things.First, without surges, I can describe the very first wound a character takes as serious if it works well that way.&nbsp; Adding a requirement that I wait out surges first does nothing to solve the problem.Second, a fighter alone in the woods who has been narrated as having his entrails spilling out, but manages to escape and hide gets his surges back and can think his guts back into place in the morning.&nbsp; There is still NEVER a need for any medical care.&nbsp; It remains &quot;wrong&quot;.Yes, a fighter out of surges and alone is in very real danger of getting killed.&nbsp; And the same pre-4E fighter would be every bit as much in danger of dying.&nbsp; Surges are irrelevant to that point and it adds zero merit to surges.Pre-4E the fighter would still need days of rest or else he would need to find an actual source of healing.&nbsp; He would need SOME narrative element of healing.&nbsp; With surges he springs back to completely unwounded from anything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BryonD, post: 5718290, member: 957"] Yes, you are missing something. At least two things. First, without surges, I can describe the very first wound a character takes as serious if it works well that way. Adding a requirement that I wait out surges first does nothing to solve the problem. Second, a fighter alone in the woods who has been narrated as having his entrails spilling out, but manages to escape and hide gets his surges back and can think his guts back into place in the morning. There is still NEVER a need for any medical care. It remains "wrong". Yes, a fighter out of surges and alone is in very real danger of getting killed. And the same pre-4E fighter would be every bit as much in danger of dying. Surges are irrelevant to that point and it adds zero merit to surges. Pre-4E the fighter would still need days of rest or else he would need to find an actual source of healing. He would need SOME narrative element of healing. With surges he springs back to completely unwounded from anything. [/QUOTE]

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