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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5718783" data-attributes="member: 11300">You read my post clearly showing that 3.x could do the Wampa scene and yet this was the first thing that jumped out to you? I thought you might have at least acknowledged that 3.x is pretty flexible. In regards to this nit pick though, I can generally buy that the force can do some pretty crazy things but I didn't think 4e was supposed to be designed for "defeating" a creature (let alone a solo) by a single character in a single round. This however was not exactly the point of your example though.Lets. Just previous to the "knocking creatures unconscious rule" you site is this which puts it perfectly into context:My own perspective on this is that this rule is purely designed for the PCs only and not something for monsters to access. The rule is referring to "you" which implies the PCs only. As well, as my monsters don't have the "insta-kill PC" option, I'm not too sure they should automatically get access to the "knocking unconscious" option either, although this is a really easy houserule to allow I will concede.With a houserule in my opinion. Dare I point you back to your own words: "fail... try again".<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Anyway, the point of my post was to show that 3.x facilitates the Wampa scene while 4e RAW does not facilitate it as easily as you would have thought... and I think I showed that pretty clearly.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

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