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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest&nbsp; 85555" data-source="post: 5721156">Sorry about that. Missed your correction. Interesting point of view here. Have to say though I've always viewed Healing Surges as much the opposite, expanding healing so characters without access to magic can heal themselves during and directly after combat (something a fighter or rogue just couldn't do in 3E unless he had a healing potion or something).   I find that 3E natural healing struck a happy medium for most of our groups. Eventually obtaining some divine healing would enable you to get around the sumbling block of being sidelined, but until that point me and my players felt some modicum of believability was maintained (if in a simplified and accelerated form). Handwaiving an injury by making it take a day to a week to heal (sometimes longer) is something I am fine with when the party doesn't have access to supernatural healing.   I think that is the point. Though in 3E a high level character could recover somewhat quickly each day as level factored in. They just couldn't heal that in an hour or a round.</blockquote>