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<blockquote data-quote="Christian" data-source="post: 820610" data-attributes="member: 381">That's the rule for taking 20, Janos. To take 10, you just have to be not rushed or under pressure-there's no other restriction in the books.The issue the OP is referring to is the 'passive' use of skills. My answer would be 'no', just because the player can't announce that he's taking 10 when he's not even aware there's a roll to be made. Spot and Listen checks are often made to see if a character notices something; the DM can't well (unless he has a huge amount of faith in his players' role-playing capability) have them making those rolls. &quot;There's a ninja hiding in the bushes by the path. Roll to see if you notice him.&quot; &quot;Can I take 10?&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> (Yeah, I know-you wouldn't say what he's rolling to Spot. You're still revealing that there's something there to try to Spot by calling for the roll.)I'll often call for a Spot/Listen roll as an ambush is sprung to see who's surprised, but I sure wouldn't allow a take 10 in that circumstance-that certainly doesn't count as a non-pressure situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Christian, post: 820610, member: 381"] That's the rule for taking 20, Janos. To take 10, you just have to be not rushed or under pressure-there's no other restriction in the books. The issue the OP is referring to is the 'passive' use of skills. My answer would be 'no', just because the player can't announce that he's taking 10 when he's not even aware there's a roll to be made. Spot and Listen checks are often made to see if a character notices something; the DM can't well (unless he has a [i]huge[/i] amount of faith in his players' role-playing capability) have them making those rolls. "There's a ninja hiding in the bushes by the path. Roll to see if you notice him." "Can I take 10?" :D (Yeah, I know-you wouldn't say what he's rolling to Spot. You're still revealing that there's [i]something[/i] there to try to Spot by calling for the roll.) I'll often call for a Spot/Listen roll as an ambush is sprung to see who's surprised, but I sure wouldn't allow a take 10 in that circumstance-that certainly doesn't count as a non-pressure situation. [/QUOTE]

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