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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majere" data-source="post: 1576462" data-attributes="member: 13916">Im just averse to it because it stops being fun to be a rogue.It means you can find almost eny trap and open almost any door by level 5.I take 20 on my search- you find nothingI take 20 on open lock - the door unlocksNext !!Bleah just reading that makes me shiverBut thats a personal thing.I know your gonna put all sorts of stuff about time and DMs, but given 3.5 Buff spells are worth dick all and in REAL LIFE terms taking 2 takes all of a breath, there is no reason for people to do otherwise. To me it just erodes another part of the game that isnt combat.Roll some dice, take a chance, if you screw up, go route 1 and blow the door off the hinges. It makes the game more interesting.MajereMajere</blockquote>