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<blockquote data-quote="ST" data-source="post: 5269843" data-attributes="member: 14053">I also dig games and variants where the players roll all the dice. Apocalypse World (from Vincent Baker, the guy who wrote Dogs in the Vineyard) does that, and it interacts nicely with the game's structure. You're focusing on what Moves you'll make, advancing your threat Fronts, and playing NPCs, players are using their special abilities, and I don't know what it it specifically, but running it it's awesome to leave the dice on the table and let the players decide when to pick them up. In practice it feels like you flip the usual RPG thing where &quot;the dice represent randomness in the game world&quot;, here it's like, &quot;the dice represent how much chaos the PCs add to the world.&quot;I know some people feel handling dice breaks immersion and that's cool, but for me it's like, we're roleplaying the whole time, and then in the middle of it the PC takes some real, immediate action, the player picks up the dice, and something is about to go down. Rolling the dice in that situation is like a flag adding some extra 'oomph' to what the PC's doing at that moment, instead of 'ok, let me stop my roleplaying for a bit, roll the dice, then go back to what I was doing.&quot; The stakes have been raised because they picked up the dice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ST, post: 5269843, member: 14053"] I also dig games and variants where the players roll [i]all[/i] the dice. Apocalypse World (from Vincent Baker, the guy who wrote Dogs in the Vineyard) does that, and it interacts nicely with the game's structure. You're focusing on what Moves you'll make, advancing your threat Fronts, and playing NPCs, players are using their special abilities, and I don't know what it it specifically, but running it it's awesome to leave the dice on the table and let the players decide when to pick them up. In practice it feels like you flip the usual RPG thing where "the dice represent randomness in the game world", here it's like, "the dice represent how much chaos the PCs add to the world." I know some people feel handling dice breaks immersion and that's cool, but for me it's like, we're roleplaying the whole time, and then in the middle of it the PC takes some real, immediate action, the player picks up the dice, and something is about to go [i]down[/i]. Rolling the dice in that situation is like a flag adding some extra 'oomph' to what the PC's doing at that moment, instead of 'ok, let me stop my roleplaying for a bit, roll the dice, then go back to what I was doing." The stakes have been raised because they picked up the dice. [/QUOTE]

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