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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8150318" data-attributes="member: 6778210">This is true, but also it's on Cody to put that actual argument in his video. Just saying &quot;that's what the player does&quot; and saying it's &quot;optimal&quot; doesn't really prove anything, it just tells us what they think. Looking at <a href="https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=72" target="_blank">Dinosaur Form</a>, I don't think that necessarily plays out (though I do have a few arguments with some of the damage choices; Deinonychus should really have <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UQv2JUZoU" target="_blank">slashing damage for the claw</a> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />).Yeah, if you love crunching DPS numbers, PF2 can look deceptively good for you, but you're also probably not going to get much in the way of play variance. Then again, if you are playing for max DPS, you probably shouldn't care anyways.The fun part of PF2 is that combat has a lot of interesting and defined options, and that you can play around with it a bit. Trying to find the ultimate route misses the point of the system, and does kind of make 5E a better choice: it's more limited, but if you are only concerned with optimal play, then that shouldn't matter.Yeah, the rules are the arbitration system of success and failure, not a substitute for actually playing. You roleplay a discussion, and when you have a conflict of some sort, you roll the dice. You don't replace the former with the latter.In fairness, as I understand it YouTube has been more aggressive in pushing ads on people. Not sure how much is their fault. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f612.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cautious:" title="Cautious&nbsp; &nbsp; :cautious:"&nbsp; data-smilie="13"data-shortname=":cautious:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8150318, member: 6778210"] This is true, but also it's on Cody to put that actual argument in his video. Just saying "that's what the player does" and saying it's "optimal" doesn't really prove anything, it just tells us what they [I]think[/I]. Looking at [URL='https://2e.aonprd.com/Spells.aspx?ID=72']Dinosaur Form[/URL], I don't think that necessarily plays out (though I do have a few arguments with some of the damage choices; Deinonychus should really have [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2UQv2JUZoU']slashing damage for the claw[/URL] ;)). Yeah, if you love crunching DPS numbers, PF2 can look deceptively good for you, but you're also probably not going to get much in the way of play variance. Then again, if you are playing for max DPS, you probably shouldn't care anyways. The fun part of PF2 is that combat has a lot of interesting and defined options, and that you [I]can [/I]play around with it a bit. Trying to find the ultimate route misses the point of the system, and does kind of make 5E a better choice: it's more limited, but if you are only concerned with optimal play, then that shouldn't matter. Yeah, the rules are the arbitration system of success and failure, not a substitute for actually playing. You roleplay a discussion, and when you have a conflict of some sort, you roll the dice. You don't replace the former with the latter. In fairness, as I understand it YouTube has been more aggressive in pushing ads on people. Not sure how much is their fault. :cautious: [/QUOTE]

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