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<blockquote data-quote="Justice and Rule" data-source="post: 8151906" data-attributes="member: 6778210"><p>I mean, I know I bought some Paizo material and converted it to 5E before PF2 came out. That could easily work in the reverse, too, though overall I think it's probably a small bit of the market.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, I feel his complaints are kind of lame because he just doesn't give any real support to it. There's no real justification for saying the Druid <em><strong>has</strong></em> to shapeshift into a T-Rex every time: I've looked at the different stats and honestly there is are other easily viable options there. You need to give <em>some</em> sort of more detailed evidence if you are going to talk about "optimal picks" because you're dealing with stuff like numbers. That he didn't... well, it's weaksauce. With his Diplomacy jab at the end, it all comes off as pretty weak.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It doesn't quite work like that in PF2: you basically a base form and you get stat/attack mods depending on the form. I think they could do a little more to flesh out (The Ankylosaurus should get extra AC, Brontosaurus should get more HP, the Stegosaurus should probably cut teh difference between the two to give it a little niche, and the Deinonychus should probably cause a bit more bleed damage to stay competitive), but the T-Rex isn't like the end-all be-all for that transformation: the Triceratops is definitely more of a damage-dealer, it just lacks the T-Rex's range. Then again the Big B has more range, and if you have access to AoO it's definitely going to lockdown more people, though it's attack doesn't have the Deadly trait like the T-Rex's jaws do (though the jaws don't cause as much normal damage).</p><p></p><p>Also really needs a Pteradon transformation, maybe a Plesiosaurus to give air/water versatility.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>People seem to think that having systems to arbitrate roleplaying is meant to <em><strong>replace</strong></em> roleplaying. His last Diplomacy comment really nailed that home.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, it's always regrettable, but as long as you got the books you're good. When it looked like FFG Star Wars was ending, I was pretty okay because I had all the material for it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Roll20 is just really lackluster. Like, the interface is dated as hell in my opinion, especially when you compare it to Foundry. I'm not a fan of the subscription service, but if you're going to do it I think you should really have a solid user interface and options, and honestly it feels like a product from 3-4 years ago.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>God, yes, night mode.</p><p></p><p>I do hope 4E appears on it, though I think the bigger problem is the lack of OGL material, which makes it legally difficult to create it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Justice and Rule, post: 8151906, member: 6778210"] I mean, I know I bought some Paizo material and converted it to 5E before PF2 came out. That could easily work in the reverse, too, though overall I think it's probably a small bit of the market. I mean, I feel his complaints are kind of lame because he just doesn't give any real support to it. There's no real justification for saying the Druid [I][B]has[/B][/I] to shapeshift into a T-Rex every time: I've looked at the different stats and honestly there is are other easily viable options there. You need to give [I]some[/I] sort of more detailed evidence if you are going to talk about "optimal picks" because you're dealing with stuff like numbers. That he didn't... well, it's weaksauce. With his Diplomacy jab at the end, it all comes off as pretty weak. It doesn't quite work like that in PF2: you basically a base form and you get stat/attack mods depending on the form. I think they could do a little more to flesh out (The Ankylosaurus should get extra AC, Brontosaurus should get more HP, the Stegosaurus should probably cut teh difference between the two to give it a little niche, and the Deinonychus should probably cause a bit more bleed damage to stay competitive), but the T-Rex isn't like the end-all be-all for that transformation: the Triceratops is definitely more of a damage-dealer, it just lacks the T-Rex's range. Then again the Big B has more range, and if you have access to AoO it's definitely going to lockdown more people, though it's attack doesn't have the Deadly trait like the T-Rex's jaws do (though the jaws don't cause as much normal damage). Also really needs a Pteradon transformation, maybe a Plesiosaurus to give air/water versatility. People seem to think that having systems to arbitrate roleplaying is meant to [I][B]replace[/B][/I] roleplaying. His last Diplomacy comment really nailed that home. I mean, it's always regrettable, but as long as you got the books you're good. When it looked like FFG Star Wars was ending, I was pretty okay because I had all the material for it. Roll20 is just really lackluster. Like, the interface is dated as hell in my opinion, especially when you compare it to Foundry. I'm not a fan of the subscription service, but if you're going to do it I think you should really have a solid user interface and options, and honestly it feels like a product from 3-4 years ago. God, yes, night mode. I do hope 4E appears on it, though I think the bigger problem is the lack of OGL material, which makes it legally difficult to create it. :( [/QUOTE]
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