Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Talented feat and overchanneling
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3685328" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>It's only related to the level of the power; you can Overchannel a power of 3rd-level or lower (such as Energy Ray) without taking any damage from the Overchannel, if you use the Talented feat and expend psionic focus for it. It doesn't matter how many effective manifester levels you Overchanneled for; the Talented feat is based on power level, not manifester level.</p><p></p><p>I think that's what you were asking about? At least the first part.</p><p></p><p>Breath of the Black Dragon has a more-useful area of effect, though somewhat smaller (how often do you find a bunch of enemies lined up in a thin row so you can hit them all with a Lightning Bolt or similar effect? How much more often do you have to face enemies who are spread out more widely?).</p><p></p><p>Energy Bolt is just a bit more efficient than it should be, though. Keep in mind though, in order to avoid the Overchannel damage with Energy Bolt, you have to spend a feat on Talented, and also expend your psionic focus each time you use it, both of which carry opportunity costs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>When you Overchannel for Breath of the Black Dragon, you could be applying a metapsionic feat to it or something else, rather than just boosting its damage through augmenting. It still carries the same opportunity cost, but it just might be more effective (though it does result in you taking the Overchannel damage unfortunately). You could be taking a metapsionic feat instead, and expending your psionic focus to apply that to BotBD instead of Talented for Energy Bolt.</p><p></p><p>(you can't expend your psionic focus for both benefits on an Energy Bolt, so it becomes a choice between: take Talented and use Energy Bolt at full power without taking extra damage myself, or take a metapsionic feat and use Breath of the Black Dragon at a little more power or across an extra-large area of effect, but suffering a bit of damage from Overchannel with the BotBD)</p><p></p><p></p><p>You could, for example, manfiest BotBD augmented only by 1 point to 12d6 damage, and also apply Empower Power to make it 12d6+(12d6x0.5) damage (similar to 18d6 in effect). Or you could do the same but with Enlarge Power instead of Empower Power, doubling the range that your BotBD cone will reach out to and affect (so you'd blast a 110-foot long, and 110-feet wide at its end, cone of acid that deals 12d6 damage).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3685328, member: 13966"] It's only related to the level of the power; you can Overchannel a power of 3rd-level or lower (such as Energy Ray) without taking any damage from the Overchannel, if you use the Talented feat and expend psionic focus for it. It doesn't matter how many effective manifester levels you Overchanneled for; the Talented feat is based on power level, not manifester level. I think that's what you were asking about? At least the first part. Breath of the Black Dragon has a more-useful area of effect, though somewhat smaller (how often do you find a bunch of enemies lined up in a thin row so you can hit them all with a Lightning Bolt or similar effect? How much more often do you have to face enemies who are spread out more widely?). Energy Bolt is just a bit more efficient than it should be, though. Keep in mind though, in order to avoid the Overchannel damage with Energy Bolt, you have to spend a feat on Talented, and also expend your psionic focus each time you use it, both of which carry opportunity costs. When you Overchannel for Breath of the Black Dragon, you could be applying a metapsionic feat to it or something else, rather than just boosting its damage through augmenting. It still carries the same opportunity cost, but it just might be more effective (though it does result in you taking the Overchannel damage unfortunately). You could be taking a metapsionic feat instead, and expending your psionic focus to apply that to BotBD instead of Talented for Energy Bolt. (you can't expend your psionic focus for both benefits on an Energy Bolt, so it becomes a choice between: take Talented and use Energy Bolt at full power without taking extra damage myself, or take a metapsionic feat and use Breath of the Black Dragon at a little more power or across an extra-large area of effect, but suffering a bit of damage from Overchannel with the BotBD) You could, for example, manfiest BotBD augmented only by 1 point to 12d6 damage, and also apply Empower Power to make it 12d6+(12d6x0.5) damage (similar to 18d6 in effect). Or you could do the same but with Enlarge Power instead of Empower Power, doubling the range that your BotBD cone will reach out to and affect (so you'd blast a 110-foot long, and 110-feet wide at its end, cone of acid that deals 12d6 damage). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
Talented feat and overchanneling
Top