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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7706392" data-attributes="member: 4937">Let's be 100% clear.  You are NOT relating your personal experiences.  You are making claims that you are neither backing up by evidence or anecdote.  I'm the only one that has made reference to the text of either module, or any details of personal experience.  Despite claiming to be insulted by my finding your claim no more credible than you found mine, you have still made no attempt to relate personal experience.  That claim is so not hyperbolic that it isn't a major plot point of a mainstream novel ('Ready Player One', soon to be a movie by Steven Speilburg).   In the story, a character (granted, he's familiar with the text of the module) does exactly that with a 1st level character as a major plot point of the story.  I'd say that proves that by this point, my claim is neither exciting or hyperbolic.  It wasn't particularly exciting or hyperbolic when I made it 10 or more years ago, and it's even less now.(Side note, how many of you were put off by 'Ready Player One' because in the story he not only does it as a 1st level character, but a 1st level character with no help and no magic items, and you knew that some of the traps can only reasonably be by passed with a either a magic item or two or more players cooperating.  Worse, he doesn't even explain the interesting part of how he does it - he just asks the reader to accept that it could be done solo by a 1st level character - which sort of suggests the writer isn't as big of a geek as he claims.)(Side side note, how damn awesome is it that we'll get to see the interior of Tomb of Horrors in a major motion picture?)Again, asserted without evidence.  It's not like this topic hasn't come up before at EnWorld.  Search up a few threads.  Lots of people were much more successful than we were (as 7th and 8th graders) their first time through the Tomb.  I've never had a good discussion of beating C1 in a reasonable fashion first time through, and frankly even if you know the text it would be really difficult.  And, it's less linear than S1 and you have no chance at clues.  All of that I agree with, but it has nothing to do with the fact that C1 is much harder than S1.</blockquote>

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