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<blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 3949583" data-attributes="member: 43283"><p>First, a disclaimer: I came across Talislanta a long time ago. I really liked it and played it for a bit, although I didn't keep up with it. These days I still like it, but think there's other good games and setting out there.</p><p></p><p>I haven't heard anything positive about Talislanta d20. Of course, I haven't heard very much about Tal d20 at all, but what I have heard hasn't been positive. I _really_ think a lot of the reason is because it's a product that annoyed the core base of Talislanta fans, and the d20 fans hammered on it because of some stumbles it (maybe) made with the rules and being a very different set of assumptions. Much like BESM d20 was reviled, despite being a pretty functional ruleset.</p><p></p><p>As for the LA or lackthereof in Tal d20, it's a problem that's fixable if you're willing to do a bit of work yourself. Whether you should _have to_ do that work is a bit of a moot point; Talislanta never really worried about balance (especially like most 3.x people seem to be obsessed with), and therefore when they put it into the d20 system, they followed that same philosophy. There have always been races/classes that were better than others, through the entire lifecycle of the Talislanta game.</p><p></p><p>If you want to add LA to the game, you've got a couple of options. You could work through the stuff using Savage Species, or you can pick up the Grim Tales Creature Creation ($8) and in addition to getting the information for critter creation, you'll get a spreadsheet to handle the calculations for you. It can be found here:</p><p><a href="http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=18836&it=1" target="_blank">http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=18836&it=1</a></p><p></p><p>There are a couple of other free options kicking around, which should be good enough for you. One of them being Soldarin's ECL calculator:</p><p><a href="http://soldarin.tripod.com/id5.html" target="_blank">http://soldarin.tripod.com/id5.html</a></p><p></p><p>There's a couple of downloads to pickup as well:</p><p><a href="http://www.talislanta.com/download.htm" target="_blank">http://www.talislanta.com/download.htm</a></p><p></p><p>For some reason, I don't see the 2nd Web Enhancement they did for the d20 version, so here's the direct download link: <a href="http://www.talislanta.com/files/volume2Web.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.talislanta.com/files/volume2Web.pdf</a></p><p></p><p>I don't know if it matters or not, but as far as getting the Menagerie is concerned, I personally plan on trying to get a copy of the 4th Ed.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scurvy_Platypus, post: 3949583, member: 43283"] First, a disclaimer: I came across Talislanta a long time ago. I really liked it and played it for a bit, although I didn't keep up with it. These days I still like it, but think there's other good games and setting out there. I haven't heard anything positive about Talislanta d20. Of course, I haven't heard very much about Tal d20 at all, but what I have heard hasn't been positive. I _really_ think a lot of the reason is because it's a product that annoyed the core base of Talislanta fans, and the d20 fans hammered on it because of some stumbles it (maybe) made with the rules and being a very different set of assumptions. Much like BESM d20 was reviled, despite being a pretty functional ruleset. As for the LA or lackthereof in Tal d20, it's a problem that's fixable if you're willing to do a bit of work yourself. Whether you should _have to_ do that work is a bit of a moot point; Talislanta never really worried about balance (especially like most 3.x people seem to be obsessed with), and therefore when they put it into the d20 system, they followed that same philosophy. There have always been races/classes that were better than others, through the entire lifecycle of the Talislanta game. If you want to add LA to the game, you've got a couple of options. You could work through the stuff using Savage Species, or you can pick up the Grim Tales Creature Creation ($8) and in addition to getting the information for critter creation, you'll get a spreadsheet to handle the calculations for you. It can be found here: [url]http://enworld.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=18836&it=1[/url] There are a couple of other free options kicking around, which should be good enough for you. One of them being Soldarin's ECL calculator: [url]http://soldarin.tripod.com/id5.html[/url] There's a couple of downloads to pickup as well: [url]http://www.talislanta.com/download.htm[/url] For some reason, I don't see the 2nd Web Enhancement they did for the d20 version, so here's the direct download link: [url]http://www.talislanta.com/files/volume2Web.pdf[/url] I don't know if it matters or not, but as far as getting the Menagerie is concerned, I personally plan on trying to get a copy of the 4th Ed. [/QUOTE]
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