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<blockquote data-quote="Janx" data-source="post: 6750644" data-attributes="member: 8835">I'm guessing macOS has recently added some iOS functionality, by way of all the references to it?&nbsp; Otherwise, iOS is not relevant to a Mac discussion, it's a Mac.A key dispute I'd have is &quot;simplicity&quot;&nbsp; Back in the macOS v7 or earlier days, yeah, you bet, Macs were simpler than PCs.Have you sat at a Mac for any length of time?&nbsp; It's not about Office.&nbsp; That's mostly the same once you load it on both platforms.&nbsp; The interface has gotten a lot more complicated than Finder.The main menu area is different.&nbsp; The control panels are different.&nbsp; OSx is NOT simple.&nbsp; It's just riding on the legend of macs are simpler.Nor is Mac hardware actually better.&nbsp; One of the old Macs had the hard-drive too close to the CRT (yeah, awhile ago) and it would wipe it.&nbsp; Physically, macs probably have the same failure rate as everything else.Sure, they look nice.&nbsp; And they do have good materials used.But it's not true that they never crash or never have issues and are absolutely easy to use.It's a computer.&nbsp; It has innate complexity.You may still enjoy a mac.&nbsp; There's nothing intrinsically wrong with them other than they cost a lot more money</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Janx, post: 6750644, member: 8835"] I'm guessing macOS has recently added some iOS functionality, by way of all the references to it? Otherwise, iOS is not relevant to a Mac discussion, it's a Mac. A key dispute I'd have is "simplicity" Back in the macOS v7 or earlier days, yeah, you bet, Macs were simpler than PCs. Have you sat at a Mac for any length of time? It's not about Office. That's mostly the same once you load it on both platforms. The interface has gotten a lot more complicated than Finder. The main menu area is different. The control panels are different. OSx is NOT simple. It's just riding on the legend of macs are simpler. Nor is Mac hardware actually better. One of the old Macs had the hard-drive too close to the CRT (yeah, awhile ago) and it would wipe it. Physically, macs probably have the same failure rate as everything else. Sure, they look nice. And they do have good materials used. But it's not true that they never crash or never have issues and are absolutely easy to use. It's a computer. It has innate complexity. You may still enjoy a mac. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with them other than they cost a lot more money [/QUOTE]

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