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<blockquote data-quote="Yair" data-source="post: 3352304" data-attributes="member: 10913">Do you want simple, or do you want non-Vancian? For spells that can be cast any number of times and aren't forgotten, consider systems such as Elements of Magic (Revised, Mythic Earth, whatever) or Legends of Sorcery - these replace the &quot;spell per day&quot; with skill checks costing fatigue, damage, or so on. Legends follows standard spells, Elements uses more generic rules - not sure which you'd consider simpler. I believe Grim Tales follows a similar path.This is still rather complicated, however. If you want simpler, you can go with alternate &quot;casters&quot; such as the Warlock (IIRC). I think the simplest method would be to pare down Elements of Magic to a set of very simple guidelines. Something like a table of DCs per die of damage, penalty to ability score, or effect (such as paralysis, stun, and so on), or spell parameter increase (range = Close, Area = Cone) and so on. That still won't be too simple - magic just ain't simple.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Yair, post: 3352304, member: 10913"] Do you want simple, or do you want non-Vancian? For spells that can be cast any number of times and aren't forgotten, consider systems such as Elements of Magic (Revised, Mythic Earth, whatever) or Legends of Sorcery - these replace the "spell per day" with skill checks costing fatigue, damage, or so on. Legends follows standard spells, Elements uses more generic rules - not sure which you'd consider simpler. I believe Grim Tales follows a similar path. This is still rather complicated, however. If you want simpler, you can go with alternate "casters" such as the Warlock (IIRC). I think the simplest method would be to pare down Elements of Magic to a set of very simple guidelines. Something like a table of DCs per die of damage, penalty to ability score, or effect (such as paralysis, stun, and so on), or spell parameter increase (range = Close, Area = Cone) and so on. That still won't be too simple - magic just ain't simple. [/QUOTE]

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